The Temple Timeline (Masons, Ancient Temples, Garments and a Lot More)

[TL;DR: There is no way the temple ties back to the temple of Solomon. The Masons formed in the 1400s forward. Yes, the dates line up for the temple to be taken directly from the masons… lots lots more]

Sections in this post:

Ancient temples – A

Masonic Timeline- M

Garment related- G

Endowment Related- E

Sealings and polygamy related- S

Miscellaneous dates- D

Notes with no date- N

These will be mixed together with the indicators included:

Circa 1250 BC (A) – Assuming biblical account is correct: Moses receives instruction for building tabernacle

Circa 1000 BC (M) – Hiram Abiff is born according to masonic lore

968 BC (A) – Solomon’s Temple Constructed

715 BC (M/A) – Numa Pompilius (the second King of Rome) organizes Roman workers into various collegia. He attaches one to each legion of the army so that Roman arms and arts go hand in hand into the outlying parts of the Empire. The stone workers, or masons, are the most numerous because of their use in defense works, and so become the most powerful. Each collegia has at least three members. They use their tools as symbols and look after the widows and orphans of members. Masons tie to this parallelism for early roots originally

715-657 BC (A) – Hezekiah reforms Temple. Many scholars believe Old Testament prior to this is re-organized by committee to fit his needs. Whatever the Templar might have recovered would have been Hezekiah’s altered temple rites

586 BC (A) – Nebuchadnezzar destroys Solomon’s Temple

515 BC (A) –Zerubbabel’s reconstruction of Temple complete

175-164 BC (A) – Antiochus Epiphanes profanes the Temple, dedicates it to Zeus

168-165 BC (A) – Maccabean Revolt and Temple rededication. Feast of Dedication (Hanukkah) created

19 BC (A) – Zerubbabel’s Temple dismantled and replaced by Harod’s Temple

(N) – Masons claim Jesus was an Essene, group similar to Sadducees and Pharisees. Worked with Stone/Carpentry; could not marry

70 – Herod’s Temple destroyed by Romans (this is the one the Templars found the remains of, rebuilt twice, and revised several times including once to Zeus)

926 (M) – Prince Edwin calls and presides over a meeting of Masons at York

1104 (T/M) – Count Hugh of Champagne visits Jerusalem

1114 (T/M) – Count Hugh of Champagne returns to Jerusalem and is accompanied by his vassal, Hugues de Payens, who remains in Jerusalem with eight other knights

1119 (T/M) – On Christmas day, Hugues de Payens and eight knights take a vow of poverty, chastity and obedience before the Patriarch in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and become the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Jesus Christ. The Knights Templar are conceived

1138 (T/M) – Pope Innocent II grants Templars new power, they are subject only to the pope

1149 – A group of organized operative stonemasons in Germany are in existence. They are called the Steinmetzen, and some claim them to be the precursors of Freemasonry today

1183 (D) – Richard III goes on Crusade, leaving Prince John in charge at home (Robin Hood stories predate this, but who cares, right?)

Friday 13, 1307 (M/T) – Templars all across France are arrested in the early hours in one decisive swoop (original order 66)

24 October, 1307 (M/T) – Jacques DeMolay confesses to accusations under Torture as part of an Inquisition

19 March, 1314 (M/T) – Jacques DeMolay and Geoffrey de Charney are burned alive at the stake on a small island in the River Seine called Île des Javiaux

1357 (M/T) –First recorded exhibition of the Shroud of Turin (now believed to be that of Jacques DeMolay, but originally attributed to Christ. Christ first gains a beard in paintings and stained glass windows after this date)

1376 (M) – Freemason and Mason Company of London is in existence as a craft guild. First use of the word “Freemason” recorded on August 9th, stricken through and replaced with “mason” (however, these are probably not connected to actual Freemasonry according to historians)

1390 (M) – The Regius Poem, or Manuscript (also known as the Halliwell Manuscript), is written or copied from older manuscripts. It is written in Middle English, and is said to be based on the instructions for a parish priest or Urbanitas, a book of instruction on deportment and hygiene. This is the origination for the “Masonic Ceremony” as known. Of note, no mention of Hiram Abiff, but instead focuses on Euclid and Egypt 

1425 (M) – The Cooke Manuscript is written. It is the second oldest of the extant ancient manuscripts of Freemasonry

1463 (M) – The Worshipful Company of Masons of the City of London erects its first Meeting Hall

1471 (M) – First mention of a Master Mason: Robert Stowell is appointed Master of Masons at Westminster Abbey

1583 (M) – The Grand Lodge No. 1 Manuscript is written. Now in the possession of the United Grand Lodge of England, this is the third oldest of the existing manuscripts relating to Freemasonry and could be said to be the one the modern rite is based on 

1598 – A rite that would eventually be the basis for the Scottish Rite by William Schaw, Master of Works, created. This version would eventually be formed into what Joseph Smith would have learned

1604 – Fellow Craft Degree of Freemasonry introduced by Francis Bacon

5 November, 1605 (D) – Guy Fawkes

1610 (D) – Galileo makes public his view of the Solar System

1650 (M) – The Harleian Manuscript is written, including “the Mason will have to answer to God at judgement day should he not keep these signs and words secret,” this is before penalties are added

1656 (M) – John Aubrey begins writing A Natural History of Wiltshire in which he states that “the Fraternity of Free-Masons are known to one another by certain signs and watch words, and other significant words,” and also described them as “adopted masons” and “accepted masons.” His history is not published until 1847

1696 (M) – First recorded mention of the five points of fellowship in the Edinburgh Register. The concept that this is ancient, when it didn’t exist in masonry (no indication prior) until 1696, is laughable

1717 (M) – Grand Lodge formed A Short History of the Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, by Louis C. King (privately published, 1983)

1725 (M) – First mention of a “Master Mason in conjunction with a degree.” Third Degree masons clearly mentioned in 1726. Source: “Philo-Musicæ et Architecture Societas Apollini [A Review],” Ars Quatuor Coronatorum 16 (1903), pp. 112-28. It makes reference to a Charles Cotton and a Papillon Ball who were made Master Masons on May 12, 1725. Anderson’s Constitutions makes reference to “Master Masons” existing at the formation of the Premiere Grand Lodge in 1717. Sloane MS 3329 (ca. 1700) and Trinity College Dublin MS (1711) both make reference to elements of the Master’s degree. From this, we can conclude that the Master’s degree existed in some form before 1725

30 July, 1733 (M) – First Masonic Lodge in America (Boston) formed

1733 (M) – Benjamin Franklin reprinted Anderson’s Book of Constitutions. This was the first Masonic book published in America

30 July, 1733 (M) -First Masonic Temple in America erected in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

28 April, 1738 (M) – In Eminenti written by Pope Clement XII This is the first official edict of the Roman Catholic Church against the Craft

1739 (M) – [Updated to add this one] Samuel Prichard publishes Masonry Dissected with the first mention or creation of the third degree

1739 (M) – A committee meets in London to discuss proposed changes for Freemasonry. This committee eventually developed into the Ancient Grand Lodge

March 1751 (M) – Joseph Torrubia, A roman Catholic priest who spies on the masons, provides a list of 97 lodges and their members

18 May, 1751 (M) – Pope Benedict XIV issues Providas against the craft, Inquisition arrests and punishes members

2 July, 1751 (M) – King Ferdinand VI suppresses the order in Spain

17 July, 1751 (M) – Schism “Grand Lodge of England” is formed known as the “moderns”

1752 (M) – George Washington is made a freemason in Fredericksburg

1754 (M) – First use of the term “Sublime Degree of a Master Mason”

1773 (M) – “Strict Union” between Grand Lodge of Scotland and the Grand Lodge of England, American rite has already diverged significantly from the European version

1775 (M) – William Hutchinson publishes Spirit of Freemasonry – the first book on Masonic philosophy expressing the view that the Craft is a Christian association

4 July, 1776 (D/M) – American Independence. Declaration was signed by 13 freemasons

13 October, 1792 (M) – Cornerstone of the White House laid on the anniversary of the death of Jacques de Molay. Six freemasons in attendence

1813 – Moderns and Antients become reconciled and form “The United Grand Lodge of Antient, Free and Accepted Masons of England”

7 May, 1818 – Joseph Smith Sr. becomes a freemason (Ontario Lodge No. 23 of Canandaigua, New York) source: Rough Stone Rolling

1822 (D) – Rosetta Stone translated in Paris allowing Egyptian to be understood

1824 (M) – King Ferdinand VII of Spain decrees on 1st August the death of all Freemasons without trial

22 September, 1826 (M) – Lucinda Morgan, William Morgan’s wife, says he had a scribe. Oliver Cowdery likely candidate. Source: Samuel D. Greene’s 1870 book, The Broken Seal…, pp. 89-90

1827 – William Morgan’s anti-Masonry Book published

1828 (M) – Formal organization of the Anti-Masonic political party in February at New York

1830 (D) – Book of Mormon Published, “Church of Christ” established

3 August, 1831 – Independence temple lot dedicated

18 May, 1834 (S) – Joseph Smith, writes “…your husband until death” in letter to Emma (no concept of eternal marriage)

July 1835 – Purchase of Book of Abraham Papyri

27 March, 1836 – Kirtland Temple Open – Joseph Smith dedicating

1835-1836 – Kirtland temple marriages open to non-members. Source: The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith, 1835-1836

26 April, 1838 – Far West Temple announced

October 1838 – Adam-ondi-Ahman Temple

1838 – Lucinda Pendleton Morgan, wife of William Morgan; writer of the exposé on free masonry marries Joseph Smith (evidence is scarce. Two sources, Sarah Pratt and Jenson claimed it). source: No Man Knows my History, Fawn Brodie

4 November, 1838 (S) -“If I do not meet you again in this life may God grant that we may somehow meet in heaven.” Letter to Emma from Carthage Jail

1839 – James Halliwell discovers the Regius Manuscript in the British Museum indicating that Masonry was of an ancient order

1840 – Biography of Lucy Mack Smith written, mentioning “Faculty of Abrac,” a Masonic Mystery. source: Refiner’s Fire, Cambridge University Press, 1994, pp. 157-158

19 January, 1841 – Baptism for the Dead introduced, not conducted in temple originally

15 October,1841 – The Grand Master of Illinois issued a dispensation to a lodge in Nauvoo, Illinois

1841 -William Morgan is baptized for the dead, by request of his wife

15 March, 1842 – Nauvoo Lodge granted. Joseph installed as grand chaplain. source: Evidences and Reconciliations, 1 volume, pp. 357-358

15 March, 1842 – “In the evening I received the first degree in Free Masonry in the Nauvoo Lodge, assembled in my general business office.” The record for the next day reads, “I was with the Masonic Lodge and rose to the sublime degree.” History of the Church Volume 4, page 552

17 March, 1842 – Relief Society organized in the Masonic Lodge. Included in the actual vocabulary of Joseph Smith’s counsel and instructions to the sisters were such words as: ancient orders, examinations, degrees, candidates, secrets, lodges, rules, signs, tokens, order of the priesthood, and keys; all indicating that the Society’s orientation possessed Masonic overtones.

4 May, 1842 (E) – Endowment administered for first time on upper floor of the Nauvoo Store (washing, anointing, clothing in garment, instruction in signs, tokens, keywords of holy priesthood)

A short time later, Joseph called seven of his leading men together and instructed them "in the principles and order of the Priesthood, attending to washings, anointings, endowments and the communication of keys " which Joseph said instituted the ancient order of things for the first time in these last days." History of the Church, 5:1–2; 

1842 (E) – Ebenezer Robinson recalls seeing John Taylor wearing a turban and having a drawn sword in the upper room of red brick store

August 1842 (M) – Nauvoo Masonic Lodge’s charter suspended

9 February, 1843 – Parley P. Pratt returns home from a mission, angry he has missed the endowment. D&C 129 given. History of the Church, 5:267

1843 – Eternal Marriage (Sealings) first performed

October 1843 (M) – Charters of the Nauvoo lodges arrested for irregularities in October

20 January, 1844 – Heber C. Kimball and wife, Vilate, recorded by Brigham Young to receive second anointing. Manuscript History of Brigham Young, p. 158, Wilford Woodruff diary for same date

27 June, 1844 – Joseph Smith Jr. dies. His last cry is “Will no man help the widow’s son” with his hands raised in a masonic sign. Star of Jupiter around his neck. The “mob” is the Warsaw militia containing freemasons

1844-1845 – Local Masonic lodges reject “Joseph’s Lodge” primarily for teaching masonry to women

1845 – Brigham Young gives the endowment as a ritual drama, with a creation room, garden room, Telestial room, Terrestrial room and Celestial room. This is the first time it is recorded as being a drama

22 January, 1846 – Lucinda Morgan (Harris) is sealed, by her own request, to Joseph Smith Jr. for eternity. Her Husband, George W. Harris, stood as proxy. The next day she is sealed to her husband for time.

1-3 May, 1846 – Nauvoo Temple Dedicated by Orson Hyde

11 January, 1846 – Heber and Vilate Kimball receive second anointing

11 January, 1846 – Brigham Young receives second anointing from Heber C. Kimball

9 April,1850 – Lucinda Morgan (Harris) is living separately from her husband, George

1852 – Polygamy formally announced

1853 – Orson Pratt publishes “27 Rules of Celestial Marriage,” clearly outlining that a celestial marriage must be polygamous

5 May, 1855 – Endowment House dedicated by Heber C. Kimball

1858 (D) – Rosetta stone translated into english

1860 – Lucinda Morgan dies, a member of the Catholic Sisters of Charity

1872 (M) – the Grand Lodge of Utah was formed as an openly anti-Mormon organization. Masons are not permitted to have leadership positions in church

6-8 April, 1877 – St. George Utah dedicated by Daniel H. Wells

1877 (E) – First recorded endowments for the dead are performed. Brigham Young produces the first written text of the endowment for use in the St. George Temple

1877 – First recorded introduction at the veil available here

1881 – William Bryant, an old neighbor of Oliver Cowdery in western NY, recalled, “He (Cowdery), was strong against the Masons; he helped to write Morgan’s [Anti-mason] book, [Lyman?] Cowdery was a strong Mason, so they all said; that is all the religion he had.” Interview published in the Saints’ Herald of June 1, 1881

1882 (S) – Edmunds Act outlaws polygamy

17-19 May, 1884 – Logan Utah Temple dedicated by John Taylor

21-23 May, 1888 – Manti Temple dedicated by Lorenzo Snow

8 December, 1890 (G) -“Sister Zina D. H. Young submitted a knitted garment something like our garments which is made in the East and asked if such may be marked & have a collar put on it and used as out Temple garment. It was decided by the First Presidency that such garments should not be used in lieu of the pattern given.” – L. John Nuttall Journal, Vol 3, p. 227; 8 December 1890

1890 (S) – Term “Celestial Marriage” now refers to more than Polygamy. Prior to this, one could be sealed in the temple and not have a celestial marriage

April, 1890 (G) -The Nauvoo Garment was decribed by Ebenezer Robinson in “The Return Vol II,” his periodical after being editor for The Times and Seasons.

6-24 April, 1893 –Salt Lake Temple dedicated by Wilford Woodruff

1893 – Church leaders order minor alterations to the language and procedures of the endowment, trying to ensure greater consistency in how the endowment is administered in different temples. Source: David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

1898 (G) – “Each individual should be provided with the endowment clothing they need. The garments must be clean and white, and of the approved pattern; they must not be altered or mutilated, and are to be worn as intended, down to the wrist and ankles, and around the neck. These requirements are imperative; admission to the Temple will be refused to those who do not comply therewith.” – President Joseph F. Smith, “Instructions Concerning Temple Ordinance Work,” President of the Salt Lake Temple 1898-1911

1904-1906 – The endowment is scrutinized during congressional hearings in the Reed Smoot trials. Focus on the “Oath of Vengeance.” David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

9 August, 1906 (G) – “The Lord has given unto us garments of the holy priesthood, and you know what that means. And yet there are those of us who mutilate them, in order that we may follow the foolish, vain and indecent practices of the world.” “In order that such people may imitate the fashions, they will not hesitate to mutilate that which should be held by them the most sacred of all things in the world, next to their own virtue, next to their own purity of life. They should hold these things that God has given unto them sacred, unchanged and unaltered from the very pattern in which God gave them. Let us have the moral courage to stand against the opinions of fashion, and especially where fashion compels us to break a covenant and so commit a grievous sin.” President Joseph F. Smith, “Fashion and the Violation of Covenants and Duty,” Improvement Era 9, August 1906, 812-815

1906 (G) – “The following is to be regarded as an established and imperative rule. The garments worn by those who receive endowments must be white and of the approved pattern; they must not be altered or mutilated, and are to be worn as intended, down to the wrist and ankles and around the neck. Admission to the temple will be refused to those who do not comply to these requirements.” “The Saints should know that the pattern of endowment garments was revealed from Heaven and that the blessings promised in connection with wearing them will not be realized if any unauthorized change is made in their form or in the manner of wearing them.” Messages of the First Presidency 5:110; President Joseph F. Smith; 28 June 1906

1916 (G) -“The garments worn by those who receive endowments must be white and of the approved pattern. They must not be altered and mutilated and are to be worn as intended, down to the wrist and ankle, and around the neck. Admission to the temple will be refused those who do not comply with these requirements. The Saints should know that the pattern of endowment garments was revealed from heaven, and the blessings promised in connection with wearing them will not be realized if any unauthorized change is made in their form or in the manner of wearing them.” President of the Church, Joseph F. Smith, Improvement Era 9:812, 28 June 1916

1919-1927 – A committee appointed by Heber J. Grant produces a revised endowment to be used in all temples. Changes include:

Eliminating the oath of vengeance.

Omitting graphic descriptions from the penalties.

Reducing the number of times the robes of the priesthood are changed from one shoulder to the other.

Discontinuing temple choirs (who had formerly performed the hymn chosen by Lucifer’s preacher), in favor of congregational singing.

1 October, 1922 (G) – George B. Richards’s questions raised after a conversation with Sister Maria Dougall in October 1922. At that time he learned that Joseph Smith had not designed the garments and temple clothing

1923 (G) – Committee formed to research origins of garment under First Presidency direction

5 April, 1923 (G) – In fact, a group of sisters led by Emma Smith and including Bathsheba Smith had fashioned both the garments and the temple clothing, and presented them to Joseph Smith for his approval. The collar on the garments had been put on because the sisters could think of no other way to finish it at the top, and they added ties because they had no buttons. The original cap in the temple clothing had looked something like a crown, but Joseph Smith had them redesign it to look more like a baker’s cap

17 May, 1923 (G) – The Church approves a shorter garment for optional use outside the temple (extending to the elbows and knees rather than the wrists and ankles). However, the longer garment remains mandatory for use in the temple.

Letter from Heber J. Grant (First Presidency letter) “After careful and prayerful consideration it was unanimously decided that the following modifications may be permitted, and a garment of the following style be worn by those Church members who wish to adopt it, namely: (1) Sleeve to elbow. (2) Leg just below knee. (3) Buttons instead of strings. (4) Collar eliminated. (5) Crotch closed.

It may be observed that no fixed pattern of Temple garment has ever been given, and that the present style of garment differs very materially from that in use in the early history of the Church, at which time a garment without collar and with buttons was frequently used.”

1907 (G) When Willard Richards was solicited [by Smith] to do the same [Remove the garment], he declined, and it seems little less than marvelous that he was preserved without so much as a bullet piercing his garments.” – Heber J. Grant journal sheets, 7 June 1907, LDS Archives

1936 (E) – A codified explanation of the symbolism of the marks on the veil is added to the endowment. source: David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

1945 (E) – The endowment is administered in Spanish in the Mesa, Arizona temple, the first time the ceremony is administered in a language other than English. David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

1950 (E) -The first filmed versions of the endowment are made for use in the Swiss and New Zealand temples (with different casts for different languages). David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

11–15 September, 1955 – Bern Switzerland Temple Dedicated by David O McKay

1960s – Film becomes the standard medium for presenting the endowment. Filmed endowments take on a theatrical quality (with costumes, scenery, music, etc.) and are dubbed from English into other languages. As the filmed endowment makes congregational singing awkward, the preacher’s hymn is discontinued. David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

“Letter: To PRESIDENTS of TEMPLES Dear Brethren: This will advise you that approval has been granted for limited modification in the design of the garment used in the temple to allow for better fit and greater wearing comfort.

The approved modified design for women has a button front rather than string ties, a brassiere top patterned after the brassiere top of garments used for day-time wear, a helanca stretch insert in the back at the waist, and widened overlapping back panels with a helanca stretch piece at the top of each panel and a button to assure panels remaining closed. All other features of the garment, including the collar, long legs, and long sleeves, remain the same as heretofore.

The approved modified design of the garment for men has a button front, closed crotch, helanca stretch insert piece in the back at the waist, widened overlapping back panels with a helanca stretch piece at the top of each panel and a button to assure panels remaining closed. All other features of the men’s garment also, including the collar, long legs and long sleeves, remain the same as heretofore.

OFFICE OF THE FIRST PRESIDENCY Salt Lake City 11, Utah June 10, 1965”

1966 – Visitor Center built in Salt Lake City

1967 -Book of Abraham papyri found at Metropolitan Museum of Art

1970s (E) – Revisions are made to the portion of the ceremony involving Lucifer’s preacher: Lucifer no longer specifies the amount of the preacher’s salary, and a reference to Satan’s having black skin is omitted. David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

1975 (G) – The long, pre-1923 garment becomes optional in the temple and is eventually discontinued. David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

1978 – The lifting of the priesthood ban on blacks by President Spencer W. Kimball makes the endowment available to all Latter-day Saints, regardless of race. David John Buerger, The Mysteries of Godliness: A History of Mormon Temple Worship (San Francisco: Smith Research Associates, 1994)

15 December, 1979 (G) – Two piece garment introduced. The most dramatic recent change was the two-piece garment in 1979. In a letter to Church leaders dated December 15, 1979, the First Presidency announced the introduction in February 1979 of two-piece temple garments. The new style garments were offered in addition to, and priced about the same as, the regular one-piece variety. No explanation for or description of the new garments was given.

1984 – The Grand Lodge of Utah and church leadership under President Spencer W. Kimball mutually agree to drop their antagonistic positions against each another

1986 (M) – It appears that some lodges still use penalties and others do not by this point. For a list of lodges using penalties today: http://bessel.org/penalty.htm

1990 – Following surveys of Church members’ feelings about the endowment, major revisions are made: – Dialogue, Vol. 20, No. 4, p.56

All penalties, the five points of fellowship, and syllables purported to having meaning in the Adamic language are omitted.

The part of the preacher is eliminated, as well as a reference to Lucifer’s “popes and priests.”

Women no longer covenant to obey the law of their husbands.

Language which faults Eve for initiating the Fall is dropped.

Many references to Adam are replaced with references to Adam and Eve.

The lecture at the veil is discontinued.

Orders from Elohim are repeated fewer times for brevity’s sake.

Prior to 1993 (M/E) – Five Points of Fellowship Removed from the Endowment

1999 (G) – Military Garment issued (Green camo)

2005 – Procedures for the initiatory are revised such that initiates clothe themselves in the garment before entering the washing room, thus eliminating the final vestiges of ritual nudity (which had been curtailed by introduction of the shield, probably during the 1920s). Water and oil are applied to the head only, not to multiple parts of the body.

2005 (G) – Silkscreened garments introduced, including silkscreening markings on inside of other clothing for military and police.

2007 – Desert tan cycling style of lycra undershort worn during unit physical training exercises. Now avaialble in “white” for females.

February 2008 – Mithryn goes to temple, hears about the change to the ceremony and asks to speak to temple president. Points out that “may” changed to “might” is the only difference in 2008, and that sitting/standing is not an issue. Temple president says he is correct. Mithryn points out that there have been many changes over time that were more than sitting standing. Temple president asks how Mithryn knows. Mithryn says that his brother told him in the Celestial Room when serving an endowment session. Temple president says, “he really shouldn’t have done that,” [shared previous endowment details in the Celestial Room].  Mithryn leaves very, very confused.

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From a Hinckley Talk (Lessons I learned as a boy)


This movie was created based on a story Gordon Hinckley’s father wrote in this novel.

This novel is a collection of moral tales that Bryant Hinckley wrote to convince children how to behave.

Again, I want to emphasize this is a work of fiction, but let’s see what this work of fiction teaches:

1) If you are thinking of doing something mean, do something nice instead.

Good lesson. I approve of that, and I think most people would as well.

2) Allow God to take credit for your good works.

Hmm, so the boys didn’t jump out and say, “Surprise, it was us!” or “Gee mister, that’s too bad about your wife. Since we clearly can throw away enough money to help someone who is sick at a moment’s whim, why don’t you come meet our father who can help your wife get better?”

In fact, why is this man working in a field with no shoes in the first place? I get it. It’s fiction for a point, but really, it’s like he’s trying to do a “Christ parable” where the details don’t matter. I guess that works for a book, but a video re-enacted from a prophet’s words at conference… maybe a higher standard should be demanded.

For example, let’s just change one detail and see what happens to the story:

When the man sees the coins, he falls on his knees and thanks the Field Fairies for sending silver coins from the goblin mines in order that his wife can be healed.

Now, don’t you kinda want the kids to come out and let him know that the field fairies didn’t actually do it? Don’t you wonder how he could ascribe U.S. Coinage appearing magically from goblin silver mines?

This “end justifies the means” thinking is beneath moral and civic leaders, and people who are respected shouldn’t descend to such tactics.

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Zion’s Camp (George Albert Smith) – Institute Video

Hope you all enjoyed a few days off of Institute last week with Saturday’s Warrior. Now we’re back, but it’s still a movie day (Who didn’t love movie days in Institute?). This one is relevant to what we’ve been studying. It’s all about that time God told an army of 150 men to march 1000 miles to do nothing, as told from the perspective of someone who, in fact, would later become prophet and was directly related to Joseph Smith, Jr.

 

0:00:05- My, what studly horses you’ve got there.  Two horses for say… 30 men?

0:00:08- yes the condition of the Missouri Saints is growing worse. Poor people are squatting on land and the neighbors are upset. They’re throwing rocks through windows now.  Edward Partridge has been tarred and feathered and the print shop destroyed.  In August 1833, D&C 98 was given, giving the Saints the right to retribution unto the 3rd and 4th generation.  The Saints had tried to use lawyers to get the land back, probably sparking the second round of violence in October 1833 (tar and feathering).  The speakers are , I think, Orson Hyde and John Gould, who were sent back to inform the Prophet of conditions.

0:00:12- Yeah, they were close to starvation and living in tents BEFORE this point, but let’s ignore that shall we?

0:00:14- Heber C. Kimball sideburns of awesome.

0:00:15- This man is Sylvester Smith.  Take a good look at him. He is the villain of the film if there is one.  They don’t say it, but he was one of the inaugural seven Presidents of the Seventy. Cowdery ordained him a high priest on October 25, 1831 and in 1832, he served as a traveling missionary on a journey from Ohio to Vermont.  They are going to turn him into a villain.  He was not related to Joseph Smith, Jr.

0:00:18- I cannot identify who these two men are who are supposed to be relating the story.  I’m guessing two of the Colesville Saints who were told to move on to Mississippi.  Governor Dunklin, or the “Father of public schools” as he is known outside Mormonism, was actually petitioned by Joseph Smith himself, so they are taking some liberties here.  He replied directly to Joseph:

No citizen, nor number of citizens, have a right to take the redress of their grievances, whether real or imaginary, into their own hands. Such conduct strikes at the very existence of society, and subverts the foundation on which it is based…make a trial of the efficacy of the laws; the judge of your circuit is a conservator of the peace. If an affidavit is made before him by any of you, that your lives are threatened and you believe them in danger, it would be his duty to have the offenders apprehended and bind them to keep peace.

So he pushed the Saints to the courts. I’m not sure why they are saying he would use troops to return the people to their homes. I’m guessing they are referring to this, printed in the Times and Seasons:

Missouri Attorney General R. W. Wells writes on behalf of Governor Dunklin that if the Mormons want to return to their homes in Jackson County, “an adequate force will be sent forthwith to effect that object.” If Mormons wish to organize their own volunteer company, “the Colonel” would be obliged to accept them. “As only a certain quantity of public arms can be distributed in each County; those who first apply will be most likely to receive them. The less, therefore, that is said upon the subject the better.”

Times and Seasons 6, no. 1 (June 1, 1845): 912.

Dunklin did not comment on the matter other that to push for courts. It sounds historical, but I wish they gave references in these movies so we could look it up. Also, he clearly did not say “provide your own guards,” but the very opposite.

0:00:20- Very handsome Joseph Smith, Jr.  He looked more like this:

What Joseph actually looked like.

with a prominent nose.

0:00:24 – Parley P. Pratt, I believe.

0:00:30- Shooshing of leaders of the church.

0:00:41- This is not, in fact, Peter Parker.  This nerdy teenager in spectacles is, in fact, George Albert Smith. Our Hero.  Hurray!

0:00:46- This is not how he received the revelation to start Zion’s Camp, with everyone staring at him.  It was recorded without detail by two historians, however, and was printed in the newspaper.

D.P. Hurlbut is sent on a mission by the Kirtland Saints to gather affidavits from the Smith neighbors at this time, thinking it would bolster the case of the Saints. Instead, he comes back with affidavits proving Joseph is a fraud. These affidavits are later printed in E. Howe’s Mormonism Unvailed.  By the end of December, Joseph files a complaint against Doctor P. Hurlbut for threatening to kill him (Papers of Joseph Smith, Volume 2 2:19n1).

Joseph writes brethren in Missouri to use the courts, write the governor and the president, but do not sell their lands.

0:01:20 – Interesting that the promise he gives is that, “he will lead them there and back again.”  I think they’ve confused this prophesy for the subtitle of the Hobbit, by J.R.R. Tolkien.  The prophesy says:

V. 17 “Zion shall not be moved out of her place, notwithstanding her children are scattered.”

V. 55-58

Go and gather together the residue of my servants, and take all the strength of mine house, which are my warriors, my young men, and they that are of middle age also among all my servants, who are the strength of mine house, save those only whom I have appointed to tarry;

And go ye straightway unto the land of my vineyard, and redeem my vineyard; for it is mine; I have bought it with money.

Therefore, get ye straightway unto my land; break down the walls of mine enemies; throw down their tower, and scatter their watchmen.

And inasmuch as they gather together against you, avenge me of mine enemies, that by and by I may come with the residue of mine house and possess the land.

V. 74 All the land which can be purchased in Jackson county, and the counties round about, and leave the residue in mine hand.

Yeah, no “Joseph will go there and back again,” but rather terms of warfare, breaking, burning, etc. combined with “purchase land.” Also, no revelation about no harm for those who follow. This revelation is not an official one to Zion’s Camp, but a personal one to Brigham Young: “To Brigham Young and his older brother Joseph, the Prophet promised: ‘If you will go with me in the camp to Missouri and keep my counsel, I promise you, in the name of the Almighty, that I will lead you there and back again, and not a hair of your heads shall be harmed’” (Brigham Young, Manuscript History of Brigham Young, 18011844, ed. Elden J. Watson. Salt Lake City: Smith Secretarial Service, 1968, 8).

He did say, according to George Albert Smith, that none of them would be “harmed.” Think about that statement,  Is sickness harm?

0:01:30 – Quick shot of young Brigham Young so that it kinda sorta fits the data… kinda.

George Albert Smith

0:01:50- Zion’s camp departed May 4, 1834. About 200 men and a number of women and children volunteered to join this expedition. They crossed most of the state by the end of June.

0:02:00- Here we see happy singing Zion’s Camp.  They left May 4th and in 8 days George A. Smith records that he ate raw pork and bread for breakfast for the first time. By May 14th, 10 days after the camp set out, the bread was exhausted. Sylvester Smith’s first recorded complaint comes when they are unable to buy bread at the planned location.

0:02:51- “most of the men in the Camp complained to him of sore toes, blistered feet, long drives, scanty supply of provisions, poor quality of bread, bad corn dodger, frowsy butter, strong honey, maggoty bacon and cheese. … Even a dog could not bark at some men without their murmuring at Joseph” (Instructor, May 1946, 217).

Heber C. Kimball wrote, “I frequently invited the Prophet to ride, seeing him lame and footsore.  On such occasions he would bless me and my team with a hearty good will.”  George A. reports that the prophet also had his fair share of blisters, but it is clear that Joseph rode more than the men (Quoted in Orson F. Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball. 1888. 56).

0:02:59 – I find no record of the Prophet ever giving George Albert Smith new boots. This is made up whole cloth to make Joseph seem less harsh.

[Edited: A member of George Albert Smith’s family corrected me on this.  This is a family story told by George A himself.  See comments for 2-3 sources.]

0:03:29- Sylvester Smith throws a tantrum. In reality he, at this point, stated he wished the party were more prepared.

0:03:41- Prophet makes statement after seeing Sylvester leave the camp implying that the Lord is behind the suffering. No such comments were made as far as any record indicates until he prophesies the sickness.

0:04:00- Look, vultures! Kinda random since they really ran into rattlesnakes and Joseph taught that… well, read the quote:

In pitching my tent we found three massasaugas or prairie rattlesnakes, which the brethren were about to kill, but I said, “Let them alone — don’t hurt them! How will the serpent ever lose his venom, while the servants of God possess the same disposition, and continue to make war upon it? Men must become harmless, before the brute creation; and when men lose their vicious dispositions and cease to destroy the animal race, the lion and the lamb can dwell together, and the sucking child can play with the serpent in safety.” The brethren took the serpents carefully on sticks and carried them across the creek. I exhorted the brethren not to kill a serpent, bird, or an animal of any kind during our journey unless it became necessary in order to preserve ourselves from hunger (History of the Church, Vol.2, Ch.5, p.72).

Why did that rattlesnake bite you? I don’t know, but it’s probably your fault for being soft, pink, and having no fangs, claws, scales or any sort of protection beyond your brain.

0:04:13- “Milk to wash down rancid mess”  Ah yes, our ever angry villain wants milk and complains about rotten meat (which it was). Why they have him ask about milk is anyone’s guess, as I doubt they had milk on a 1000 mile walk. Anyway, here we see him throw the first punch in a fistfight over being told to quit whining. Immediately, we think of Laman and Lemuel and their murmuring.

If you look like this in the army, you’re gonna get punched.

 Here’s the only recorded instance of a fistfight in Zion’s camp:

The old wagon road that Zion’s Camp was to travel through Missouri passed immediately by the three hundred twenty acres of William Adams Hickman, approximately eleven miles east of Huntsville, Missouri, near present-day Missouri State Highway 24. Hickman was a prosperous young farmer, only about twenty years old. He and his wife, Bernetta, noted the approach of Zion’s Camp with interest. Although there was an air of secrecy surrounding the advancing company, it was extremely difficult to hide the identity of such a large contingent of fighting men. Hickman and his wife knew the camp’s identity and were hospitable to the weary marchers when they arrived.

Bernetta’s brother, Greenlief Burchardt, also knew who they were, but he was antagonistic and even hostile toward the camp. Apparently the differences of opinion between the two men were expressed, and in the passion of the moment, William Hickman challenged his brother-in-law Greenlief to a fistfight in defense of his right to entertain the Mormons on his farm. There is no evidence that the fight ever took place, but there is reason to believe that William and Bernetta treated the Mormon marchers kindly. Sources suggest that the Hickmans invited some of the marchers into their home for dinner, and evidence shows that the Mormons received fresh water, a scarce commodity, from their benefactors’ well.

http://rsc.byu.edu/archived/sperry-symposium-classics-doctrine-and-covenants/19-zion%E2%80%99s-camp-study-obedience-then-and-no

Okay, so there is no evidence this fight even happened, it was at a house where they were served dinner, and it was non-members fighting over whether they should serve members of the militia.

 “Why bother with history, when you can make shit up” – The CES and Correlation Committee.

0:4:40 – So what really did happen with Sylvester Smith?  What did Joseph actually say?

Finding a rebellious spirit in Sylvester Smith, and to some extent in others, I told them they would meet with misfortunes, difficulties and hindrances, and said, ‘and you will know it before you leave this place,’ exhorting them to humble themselves before the Lord and become united, that they might not be scourged  – Joseph Smith, Jr. (History of the Church, Vol.2, p.68).

Then the next day, the horses are sick and Sylvester’s horse was more sick. From that, everyone knew that Joseph was a prophet and that Sylvester Smith was in trouble. Your horse is more sick, therefore, you’re evil. Sounds like frontier justice to me.

If only horses could talk, maybe they’d tell how angels struck them… or maybe they’d say, “You’re a superstitious ninny, Wilbur.”

The most accurate spot is where Sylvester complains about better planning. He really did that.

0:05:06 – “If we are united… act like Christians.”  Yeah, he never said this. The above quote is the relevant one. He didn’t importune them to come together, simply pronounced a curse.

0:05:26 – One character conspicuously absent from this film is the prophet’s dog. He took a dog with him that would bark and growl at Sylvester Smith, and for some reason Sylvester didn’t approve. He complained, to which other’s wrote, “Even a dog could not bark at some men without their murmuring at Joseph.” Of course, we all love it when the CEO brings his dog along, especially when that dog seems to want to attack us. Why would someone complain about that? I wonder why they left out the prophet’s dog barking at the members of the camp from the film? Probably the same reason they left out the horses being sick as the confirmation of Joseph’s words.

0:05:45- “Who leads the camp?”  This is a direct quote all the way up until the reply that, “The God of Israel leads the camp,” from the other kid.  That was never said. But this exchange is word for word up until that point.  A note, the manual calls the people asking  “spies,” but never mentions who on Earth would be “spying” on them. These were more likely just people in and around the area curious about a militia of 200 armed men wandering around where they lived.

0:06:30- The miracle of water. The source of this is in 1890. Oliver B. Huntington (who is disparaged as a record keeper by some apologists in other matters) quotes Zera Cole who was actually on the march.  Got that?  A second hand acount 50-60 years after the fact.  Hmmm… Who else gives such quality sources?  Anywho, the story, as recalled at the time is as follows:

One hot day in June [1834], after an unusually long, hard day’s travel, over a rolling prairies, without sufficient water laid in for the men and no water encountered for the teams, they made camp on a prairie, the end of which it was impossible to reach or even see.

After tents were pitched and the teams turned out a strong guard had to be placed to keep the animals. Men were very quietly complaining of the location, the lack of wood, and no water to cook with, even if they had plenty of wood. Some teams were about “give-out” and a thousand other little troubles acted out if not spoken of.

Got that?  Some men complain. Let’s just blame Sylvester though. Makes life easier if you have a constant villain.

The Prophet sat in his tent door watching and listening to all that could be seen or heard. At last he quietly asked for a spade. There was no noise, no bustle, no show of greatness or power about this man who had seen the Creator of heaven and earth and had received from Him at different times unmeasured power only in keeping with circumstances, and as the spade was handed him he measured the extent of the camp with his eye and in the most convenient place for all he commenced to dig in the earth. There was no rock to split open, as with Moses of old, or he could have done that more easily or quickly. But he quietly dug a well only a few feet deep and then left it.

Presently the water began to come in, and it kept rising in the well until the mules and horses came and drank therefrom, as the water was no near the surface. The Prophet went and sat in the door of his tent and witnessed the joy of all, even of the animals, as they quenched their thirst in this God-given supply. There was no wonder or proclamation over the matter, as Brother Cole stated it, and perhaps not a dozen in the camp witnessed it as he, Brother Cole, witnessed it, and he looked upon it as one of the greatest miracles ever performed by man as an instrument in the hands of the Great Creator

(Oliver B. Huntington, “An Incident in Zion’s Camp,” Juvenile Instructor 37, no. 1. 1, January 1902: 20-21; See also Oliver B. Huntington, “History of the Life of Oliver B. Huntington, Written by Himself 1878-1990,” typescript copy, BYU Special Collections, Harold B. Lee Library, Provo, Utah, 23, 34; “William Cahoon, Autobiography,” in Stella Shurtleff and Brent Farrington Cahoon, eds. Reynolds Cahoon and His Stalwart Sons. Salt Lake City, Utah: Paragon Press, 1960. 81-82).

Okay, so a miracle, like when Moses split the rock, right?  Well maybe not so much…

The Missouri Department of Conservation states that the area around highway 65 is a marsh prairie. That just so happens to be identified by the Maxwell Institute as the same spot Joseph was at this point. “This area is largely wetlands,” says the website.

It has a high water table. So, either God could have prepared all of Missouri for the Prophet over millions of years, or the prophet knew something of where to find water, thought about where the grass was greenest, and dug.

Also, while taking a course on geography at BYU, they pointed out that you can dig ANYWHERE and if you dig deep enough you’ll find water. That’s why it’s a water table, and not water polk-a-dots.

Just a note, there is no note of the water ever being “poisoned” at all… this is made up whole cloth. They really didn’t have enough water due to poor preparation. Blame Sylvester Smith. Joseph’s lack of planning should never have been pointed out. Also interesting is that, according to the record, they were in tents when the water issue arose, not actively marching. It’s like the movie makers didn’t even try to read the records, but went from a Sunday School Manual.

0:08:30 – Actually, the one record is Mr. Cole and he said it wasn’t like when Moses smote the rock. But who’s counting.

0:08:40- June 3rd. Yes, Joseph actually said they would die, “like sheep with the rot.” Funny thing is, this is mentioned in the same journals just after “Zelph, the white lamanite.” I wonder why they left that bit out of this video. Immediately after being told they’d die, they buy honey.

They ride a ferry, then cure some hams.  The people say the meat stinks, and Zebadee Coltrin, the camp cook shown in the film, fries the ham.  They eat it with mush and honey.

A priest complains to a magistrate about the camp. The priest said to the magistrate, “that company march and have guns like an army—they pitch their tents by the side of the Road—they set out Guards and let nobody pass into their Camp in the night—and they are Mormons, and I believe they are going to kill the people up in Jackson County Missouri, and retake their lands.”

Hmm… very accurate assessment. Perhaps the spirit was with that priest.

So far… no scourge in the record. Maybe they repented? What does the movie show?

0:09:12- Military drills and exercises in Missouri. Funny, they had already reached Missouri when he dug for the water. Ah well, no one will notice right?

Orson Pratt and Oliver Cowdery were sent to Governor Dunklin’s as stated. Two days later they returned with the message that Dunklin refused to act. The governor had said that, “if he sought to execute the laws in that respect,” it would, “deluge the whole country in civil war and bloodshed.” Nonetheless, after counseling together, the camp decided “that we should go on armed and equipped.”

Why was Dunklin such a dunce? He has an army entering his territory bent on fighting to get lands back, and he does nothing? On 6 June, he wrote to James Thornton that he had determined to await the course of events. The Mormons had an undeniable right to return to their lands but might yet be persuaded to forfeit that right in view of the difficulties. His first advice would be for them to sell out if they could get a fair price. Another possibility would be to give both groups separate territories.

He thought he could REASON with the Saints to sell out.

0:09:47- The official account from the manual:

On the night of June 19, 1834, Joseph and his party passed safely through the town of Richmond [Missouri]. They camped between two branches of Fishing River. They were getting ready to lie down to rest when five rough men, with loaded guns, appeared before them. “You shall not live to see morning,” they said. “Sixty men are coming from Richmond, and seventy more from Clay County, to utterly destroy you.”

That night a terrible storm arose. The lightning flashed, the thunder rolled, and rain came down in torrents. Some of the mob said afterwards that Little Fishing River rose thirty feet in thirty minutes. The awful storm filled the enemies of the Saints with fear. They fled in all directions, trying to find shelter. One of their number was struck by lightning and killed.

The historical account:

The camp had been under constant threat of attack from Missourians who had assembled to destroy the Mormon marchers. On the morning of Thursday, June 19, an agitated black woman warned Luke Johnson that a large company was planning to destroy the Mormon camp. A farmer confirmed the report later that day. The camp hastily moved forward, believing that they could receive assistance from Latter-day Saints in Clay County, Missouri, but several incidents hindered their progress: a wagon broke down and had to be repaired before the camp could proceed, and the wheels ran off at least two others. None of the delays was particularly significant in itself, but combined, they hampered progress significantly.

Zion’s Camp was forced to stop “on an elevated piece of land between the forks of the Big and Little Fishing Rivers.” While the main group pitched their tents, five members of the mob rode across the river and threatened the Saints that they would “see hell before morning.”[10] Shortly thereafter it began raining. It rained in torrents throughout the night, “the thunder and lightning exceeded all description.”[11] Heber C. Kimball related that there was continual lightning throughout the night, bright enough to see to pick up a pin. Another account suggests that small hail fell in the camp;[12] many others indicate that hail the size of eggs fell only outside camp. Many of the brethren took refuge in a local church house, but others remained in their tents. Their enemies hid under wagons. One of the mob was reportedly killed by lightning, and another’s hand was torn off by a fractious horse frightened by the storm.[13] Tree limbs as large as four inches in diameter were torn from trees. The storm disorganized the Missourians, which curtailed their achieving their destructive objectives. They left, having failed in their intent to destroy Zion’s Camp.

Many of the camp members perceived the terrible storm to be providential intervention. http://rsc.byu.edu/archived/sperry-symposium-classics-doctrine-and-covenants/19-zion%E2%80%99s-camp-study-obedience-then-and-no

The differences are subtle.  Joseph didn’t feel impressed to make them stop, they were forced to. They didn’t all find safe haven in a building; many had to wait out the storm in tents.  But yes, the aggressors were battered and gave up their objective.

0:11:46- Records indicate the rain started just after the men spoke. I would guess there were already clouds in the sky. No records indicate this kind of cinematic divine intervention of clouds blowing in.

0:14-39- They show him drowning. He was struck by lightning. The only member of the opposition who died was killed by lightning and they didn’t show it?

0:15:29- “Go to where I left off.”  This is a cheap and simple play so that Joseph could pick up where he left off on translation. Revelation was never described this way. This is D&C 105 for anyone wondering.  And no, Zion was never redeemed, so God should have said, “Wait for a little season to be tried further, and Zion will be redeemed in the year 2100 (or later), suckers!”

0:16:10- Um, excuse me Joseph. Did you say we walked all this way not to fight? No wait, is that murmuring? I’ll just stand up and say nothin’.

0:16:12- Joseph is not recorded as saying that the scourge would be cholera, or that it would come back. He simply said, “a scourge would come,” and left it open. Once the cholera hit: presto, scourge was it. Cholera is a gastrointestinal disorder that causes severe cramping, vomiting, and a weakening of the victim because of the inability to keep down or process nutrients. Hyrum Smith indicated that, “it seized [us] like the talons of a hawk.”

George A. Smith recorded that “many of the brethren were violently attacked . . . some falling to the ground while they were on guard.” The disease spread quickly in the unsanitary conditions and, not uncommonly, by and to those who cared for those already infected. The numbers reported of casualties from the disease in Zion’s Camp vary. Most sources suggest thirteen or fourteen; one indicates that as many as twenty died from the disease. Burial was quick because of the rapid decomposition of the bodies. Many wrote of this incident, regretting that they couldn’t do more for their fallen comrades. Joseph Bates Noble, who had been caring for his dear friend, Elbur Wilcox, lamented: “Never in my life did I feel to mourn like as on this occasion. I was sensible that a strong chord of friendship bound us together, but I did not know that our hearts were so completely knit together as they were.”

http://rsc.byu.edu/archived/sperry-symposium-classics-doctrine-and-covenants/19-zion%E2%80%99s-camp-study-obedience-then-and-no

The mob was so afraid of cholera, it prevented them from attacking. A curious thing is that the faithful were stricken and died along with the complainers. I’m not sure how that’s God’s wisdom. Kinda like an evil cartoon villain, “Fail me again, and you’ll suffer, just like my trusted lieutenant I just shot.”

0:17:51- Oh, so THAT’s why they altered the line. Because then they could work it in here as a faithful emotional jerking moment. I guess all edits to history are for that purpose.  That’s kinda, um, manipulative, deceptive and… well, maybe I’m just murmuring. I should watch out for cholera.

0:18:19- Try to picture this scene with him vomiting and pooping himself to death. It alters it significantly.

0:18:44- I want you to realize these are blood relations to Joseph, but they show him stoic. Jesse was the faithful one, and he was killed by the scourge. Joseph has leaned over to these boys and told them time and again that God was going to strike the camp. It’s just odd to me that they don’t let him even cry over family, nor do they provide adequate explanation as to why God would kill the faithful beyond “His work was done.” I’m okay with that reason, but I’d rather not vomit and poop myself to death, God, if that’s okay.

0:19:20- Another interesting thing is that they completely avoid the Clay County Saints in the film. They don’t show their suffering which God didn’t assist with. They don’t show how the interaction there went, because they might have murmured. Another thing to realize is that 9 of the 12 apostles were chosen out of Zion’s Camp, and that means that the Clay County Saints did not have a chance to become apostles like the Kirtland Saints. The Clay County Saints were the first converts from Palmyra area. Instead, it was Rigdon’s Kirtland group that primarily became apostles.

Moral of the Story- God is going to fuck with you. He might kill the innocent. He might starve you, make you eat raw pork, and withhold water, or ignore your pleas all together.  But don’t you dare talk back; you’re a bad person.

Second Moral- The writers of the story can fuck with history however they like to make anyone look bad, except Joseph.

Bonus Links for the Faithful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Smith_(Latter_Day_Saints)

Saints without Halo’s Zion’s camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zion’s_Camp

http://www.mormonthink.com/glossary/zions-camp.htm

Bonus link for the non-faithful

Eyebleach.com

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Saturday’s Warrior Continued

Part 5:

0:00:00 – This is the God the author believes in. You want to dance more than anything? BAM, you’re a cripple. You want to be the most awesome missionary ever? No success.  You want to keep your promise to your little sister? BAM, your trial is doubt. He gets some sort of perverse pleasure out of making things as hard as possible. This is not a God who gives talents, this is a God who sees talents and stacks trials specifically designed to crush the individual as much as possible.

0:00:24 – Awkwardly close to my lips there, Elder.

0:00:45 – Apparently being socially awkward and following in the pre-existence means that your challenge is being socially awkward on Earth as well.

0:01:15 – Yes, this is totally the way to contact. Most effective techniques ever.

0:02:06 – Bonus points for pointing out how stupid that question really is.

0:02:22 – Saleswoman reply matches the message. Again, fascinating.

0:02:49 – Kid off of skateboard… kinda like the baseball baptisms. Yeah, nothing wrong with pressuring the missionaries. Yes, it’s for comedy, I get that, but the underlying “Why it is funny” is interesting because missionaries really were so desperate that they really resorted to these kinds of tactics.

0:03:07 – Start singing “Man up” from The Book of Mormon Musical.  There is a warlord who shoots people in the face waiting for them in that city.

0:03:29 – Courage and doubts conquered. It’s just really just people looking for the LDS faith.

0:05:56 – Emotionally depressed, feeling lost, looking for a cause? Golden convert.

0:06:20 – “Best wife in the world for him.” Again, very telling without meaning to be.

0:07:16 – “Up to me to make myself worthy of you.”  Ah yes, we have no value without worthiness. Notice she has the church; what she needs is a man to be complete.

0:08:20 – Actually, given the amount of time she’s suddenly staring off into nowhere, maybe the only explanation is… *sigh*  drugs.

0:08:45 – The amazing doctrine of “soulmates” taught by the Prophet… no one.

0:08:50 – Um, sir? You’re standing in a park, alone, with your hand outstretched for a long time… are you drunk?

0:09:10 – Benji just wanted some of Jimmy’s drugs.

0:09:40 – “Doesn’t have the guts to do what he knows is right.” Yup, that’s what families fight over all the time.

0:09:43 – “This isn’t what a family is for!” Exactly what Abel’s sister cried out after Cain hit Abel the first time. It’s also what Judah’s daughter-in-law cried out mid-incest prostitute imitation scheme with her Judah. It’s also what Ham cried out upon spying Noah’s drunken junk. It’s also what Mary said when her Father explained exactly how she’d get pregnant with Jesus.

0:10:40 – That’s right, don’t let your brother go.  Instead, throw all kinds of insults and “I know you know better” lines at him.

0:10:50 – Blame yourselves for him making decisions that are different from yours.

0:11:15 – “So what do you think Jimmy?” Every guy who thinks about rebelling from his family is instantly offered a threesome with teenager girls.

0:11:38 – Drunken dance orgy song.

0:12:58 – “Do your own thing, and still you’re loved like a brother.” Unconditional love- an evil concept.

0:13:46 – The lyrics of this song imply that the leader of the gang is waiting for this big exploratory trip to discover why they were born to find out if Jimmy is going. Why is the leader so interested in Jimmy? He has hot girls and guys all around him. Does he actually care for Jimmy? Does he actually worry about Jimmy’s future?

0:14:00 – Surprise Birthday!  Love BOMB.

0:14:30 – Ah yes, teenager has trouble accepting love bomb. Physical violence may be necessary.

Part 6:

0:00:00 – Nothing says love like a child giving her most prized possession to an ungrateful sibling, and her MOTHER suggested it. Note, it’s the only possession we’ve seen her have in the entire film. Maybe there’s something to the idea that the younger kids are not receiving an equal distribution of income. After all, Pam and Jimmy would remember times when their father had money before the crippling disease would have consumed the family’s income in medical bills.

0:00:25 – Spit shine of Sunday shoes and breakfast in bed. Everything here says “no money.”

0:01:15 – Benji fixed the car… Awesome.  He’s my favorite character.

0:01:40 – Home sewn shirt, still no money.

0:02:16 – Cardboard swords. Burger king crown.  Again, no money. CTR on the shield.  Nothing says, “I love you, Atheist” like church themed gifts. Tickets to Camelot, finally something that cost a buck or two. You might see why Jimmy would be a bit upset about resources.

0:04:00 – Baby announcement on Jimmy’s birthday… how thoughtful. Everything about this family says forced authority and inconsideration for any sort of thought beyond the bounds.

0:04:35 – “You’re almost 40 years old, there could be something wrong with that baby.”  Ah yes, every teenage boy worries about having a Down Syndrome sibling.

0:04:40 – The slap. That’s right, your teenager mouths off to your wife. Physical violence is the only recourse.

0:04:52 – Guilt inducing pseudoscience at its best. If your mother miscarries, it’s probably YOUR fault you rebellious, inconsiderate teen who dared to walk away after your father hit you. Take your abuse like a man.

0:05:02 – Miscarriages don’t happen like this, by the way.

0:05:08 – I’m sorry Emily, but instead of being born into an abusive home of total authority an uncaring poverty in Utah, you’ll be born in China where you’ll be discarded purely for being female, die, and get a trip straight to heaven.

0:05:22 – Missing teeth… eternal principle.

0:05:25 – Party in the middle of the park. Clearly hung over.

0:05:35 – “Flinders… you were in rare form.” Wait, is the blond implying they had sex? Oh my gosh, so naughty.

0:06:10 – “He’s gonna wash away his sins,” said by the token black cast member in the gang, with every bit of seriousness a line like that deserved.

0:06:38 – Your mother lost her baby AND your sister had to go to the hospital, probably because of something you did, you bad, bad teenager.

0:07:18 – “Quest for freedom – Freedom is knowing who you are.”  Ah yes, freedom is obeying authority and accepting what they tell you.  War also brings peace and effort is a vacation.

0:08:14 – Wait, Jimmy drove to wherever Kesler was on his mission? Maybe there is a reason the Elders look so depressed. Notice, Julie would never have found Mr. Right if Jimmy hadn’t rebelled. Rebellion is part of God’s plan,  and so is child abuse, miscarriage, and making the youngest spirit in heaven feel like an outcast in her own family.

0:10:10 – He draws potential. Very nice. Kinda creepy, but nice. Imagine an artist drawing your “Oh” face he imagined for you and telling you about it. Kinda like that.

0:10:30 – “It’s the drugs isn’t it.”  YUP!

0:11:05 – Trying the world. Not freedom.

0:11:50 – “Knowing who you are.”  “Something else you know isn’t there.” Again, the theme is that everyone on Earth really KNOWS mormons are right. They feel it deep down.  They KNOW abortion is wrong. They KNOW big families are good. They all feel it.  It’s what one should expect from the pre-existence. From a rational God. But the model isn’t a working one.

0:12:40 – Jimmy could have been a MISSIONARY but gave up on it.

0:12:50 – He’s been sleeping on a bench? And they know to find him there. Odd.

0:13:10 – Payphones. Hallmarks of a bygone era. Random police siren.

0:13:40 – “Not Pam!” Yes, when you are at your lowest, God will kick you right in the feels.  Assume fetal position.

0:14:02 – More false doctrine.  The spirit world is NOT the pre-existence. As beautiful as this sequence is, it has no basis in doctrine at all.

0:14:28 – That’s 26 seconds of slow spinning.

Part 7:

0:00:03 – We’ve slapped you teenagers.  We’ve guilted you teenagers.  We’ve propaganda’d the hell out of the church. Now, take sweet little girl pleas.  Shape up, you naughty kids!

0:00:28 – Who am I?  Where am I going? Ah yes, the questions the church answers. Only answer… back to the church family with you!

0:01:38 – Notice that Jimmy is not really really “Who am I,” but more “Can’t someone love me and not put me down?”  He feels oppressed in his family. “Just a number” he has mentioned, despite being the oldest. Parents might try listening, holding, comforting, and not pushing religion on him.  Just saying.

0:02:29 – The famous “Angel/Devil” on the shoulder fight over Jimmy’s soul. Family is “good” despite clear signs of abuse. Friends are bad, and maybe these guys are. They’re reckless and out of control.  But there is no medium where Jimmy gets to talk to his family and be understood. There is no way to reconcile friends and family, because of the either/or dichotomy the church forces.

As far as climaxes go, this really isn’t too bad for B-grade movies. The internal struggle is certainly well portrayed. I think there is a lot to work with here, I just disagree with the final conclusion.

0:04:30 – Wait, so he was torn as to whether or not to show up at his sister’s funeral, and the friends didn’t understand that? Wow. Kid’s got issues, and those aren’t really friends, are they?

0:05:08 – I hope that they understand that he doesn’t have to believe what they do, and join into their family full time again, to attend a funeral or show compassion.  Right?

0:05:27 – Dedicating and fasting.  Yes, they’ve been “humbled.” I wonder what he would have drawn the missionaries as.

0:06:30 – Stomach films. Nice touch of humor while still being in contact.

0:07:04 – Giving up smoking has never been easier than with missionaries. One week and he’s clean!

0:07:30 – Wow, doesn’t he look happy? The missionaries are happy. Yes, baptism is the happy thing.

0:07:55 – Unnecessary cut to black, because we go from the missionaries TO missionaries.

0:08:18 – One baptism and they are humble fearless servants of God.

0:08:50 – Can’t marry him… 3 days before. Again, something that is a bad precedence to set up for the LDS crowd. At least the father actually listens to Julie. Maybe Jimmy’s leaving was helping.

0:09:45 – Wait, is this implying that her feelings of love for her promised one only kicked in when he joined the church? Again, staggering implications.  If you are not worthy, your loved one will never remember your promise. If you aren’t a good enough missionary, you might not convert someone else’s husband/wife.  Don’t marry non-members, goodness, they don’t yet have their love kicked in.  But you know, it’s only a musical.  What impact could it have?

0:13:18 – Note, Julie thinks that the feelings she has are for her missionary. God is quiet and communicates in vague mysterious ways, but it’s our fault if we misinterpret them.

0:13:40 – That missionary hasn’t been able to hold a girl for two years. Your odds are pretty good honey.

0:13:50 – Elder Green came home before Kesler. Now, his mother had Braxston Hicks with him, meaning they could not be more than a week apart in birthdays, probably only a few days.  And yet they didn’t come home together. In my mission, and I assume in others, they weren’t exactly two years, but they would send missionaries home in batches, typically within a few weeks. Granted that Kesler didn’t come home, that means he went out late.

And why would he be delayed going out? Well ,we’ve seen that he ignores the rules due to pride. That’s been constant. And he forgives his own failures while blaming others. Could it be that… Julie delayed his mission? They only knew each other 6 weeks previously and that’s about how long before batches of missionaries.  Hmmm….

0:14:14 – Genuine RM creepiness.

0:14:30 – Yeah, he’s learned humility alright!

0:15:00 – That nod, to the “keeping her promise.” Oh yeah, that’s the nod of a spurned man.

Part 8:

0:00:10 – God’s got a sick sense of humor, doesn’t he?  Like, when he makes Ezekiel eat crap because other people are not faithful… yeah, that’s what this “having your girlfriend marry your only convert” is like.

0:00:36 – “Promise me you’ll pray first before you do anything drastic.” I think Mr. Collins from Pride and Prejudice should have said this.

0:00:48 – All part of the plan. Because God is a dick.  But hey, take your huggy-face-close best friend forever (literally) and head off to BYU to share a room. That’s part of the plan too!

0:1:00 – If you think this song has no influence on the rapid marriage rates of Utah, you have another think coming. The idea that you know this person from before, and thus don’t need to date them, is pretty rough.

02:24 – I have to wonder if the convert-theft of a girlfriend in legacy was based on this sequence.

02:46 – Beedy beedy beedy beet- Gosh Emily, time to be born. Remember who you are, and hopefully you won’t be rebellious like your older brother, or be abused by your dad.

04:08 – Good thing Jimmy was there to get the car… oh wait, home birth! Clearly home birth is good. Jimmy will be there to see his mother’s bits. Lucky boy, I’m sure he’s glad he gave up partying in California for that.

0:05:45 – Success! Emily is born to a darkened world with only the family to provide light for her, on a rainy night. Abortion refuted, teenagers corrected, clearly the world is repaired and corrected.

0:06:00 – That’s right, the song to make us feel special, as these are for us. I bet this looks silly in 200 years that we thought we were the end of the world.

0:07:20 – Epic sword pose!

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Saturday’s Warrior

Part 1:

0:00:00 – Is this Star Wars?  Maybe Star Child.  Maybe they just figured out how to use an effect on words.

0:00:11 – “Children welcomed,” ah yes. The real point of this movie/stage play was to get people pregnant and fight the abortion agenda.

0:00:19 – Presents… Is that the Battlestar Galactica in the background?

0:00:28 – Stock footage, or did they actually rent a plane for this scene?

0:00:43 – Saturday’s Warrior.  My mother always thought since my sister was born on a Saturday during a rain storm that this was really fitting.  Now my sister is 30 years old +,  it seems a bit odd that Saturday lasted so long.  I’m sure in another 20 years this will seem even sillier, and perhaps 20 years after that this movie will go down the memory hole it deserves.

0:00:51- “Who are these children coming down” song.  “Trailing clouds of glory” comes from a William Wordsworth poem printed in 1919.  William Wordsworth was a contemporary of Joseph Smith, being born 35 years before Joseph, and dying 6 years after.  I don’t know if he ever encountered Joseph, or if Joseph read this poem before coming up with the pre-existence, but Wordsworth seems to be talking far more of “potential” of humans rather than an actual existence before this one, just as the “jail” in the next few lines doesn’t imply we all go to a literal prison.

Ah well, why write good lyrics when you can steal them, right?

0:01:09- Music By Lex D. Azevedo, the guy who does all Mormon music in everything.

0:01:21- Screenplay adapted by the producer and his wife, like we couldn’t tell that just by looking at it.

0:01:40 – “Stand to fight the world alone, there are the few the warriors saved for Saturday…”  Here we see the Mormon persecution complex in full bloom.  We’re telling the story not of the bold individuals, not of people who do miraculous things, but of the persecuted few who must fight the entire world on their own.  It’s like if Jennifer Connelly in Labyrinth had just sung about how she had to face it all alone,

If she went that way, she’d have gone straight to that castle

or if Avatar Aang sang about how hard it was to be the last airbender.

He is the few, the only airbender in our day…

Whiny heroes, gotta love them.  Feed that persecution complex!

0:01:48 – Mom, do you have to kiss me, the camera is rolling!

0:01:58- Weeee! I love swings!

0:02:17 – I was less faithful in the pre-existence, but I’m still faithful enough to be a Saturday’s warrior.  Take that logic and smoke it, bitches!

0:02:29 – Oh crap! I hate slides!!!!

0:02:31 – Worst gymnastics bar routine ever.

If you think any of these kids actually have anything to do with this plot, you’re in for disappointment.

0:02:55 – What, dad… CRAP you let gooooooooo!

0:03:05 – Naked chick holding baby, implying breastfeeding occurred at some point.  Conservatives today would rank this among the liberal media destroying our nation.

Wait, is that a dude?  A dude with long hair, or a woman?  I can’t tell.  Gah, my eyes.

0:03:26- Gary Lewis, this is one of the few movies that would have been improved if produced by Jerry Lewis.

0:03:35- Isn’t that the actor who played “Greatest American Hero”?

0:03:43- First actual cast member surrounded by clouds.  I guess in heaven we walk on clouds.  You know, like primitive man thought until we developed airplanes and space ships. and discovered that God wasn’t above clouds.  Maybe they just got a good deal on a fog machine.

0:04:12- Boy, I bet they wish that God had sent Lindsey Stirling a few years earlier so they could have someone who could sing AND dance at the same time for this.

0:04:24- Produced, directed, written by, adapted by, and doctrine verified by Bob Williams.  Ah Bob Williams, is there anything you can’t do?

0:04:29- Ah, our first bit of false doctrine: “There are cute kids in heaven, while there are also mothers and fathers that are fully grown in heaven.”  No doctrine for this at all.  Maybe he just thought the audience was too stupid to figure out that they were all grown ups in the pre-existence.  Or maybe our heart strings wouldn’t be tugged so much by a fully grown spirit child saying, “But Jimmy, you promised!”

0:04:35- Apparently Moroni was totally out of fashion when he appeared to Joseph Smith. He had on white and didn’t wear anything underneath his robe.  These people are in ballet dresses (With sleeves) and pajamas.  Also, notice there are only white people in the pre-existence.

0:04:55- Our first spoken line, “All of this waiting.” Yeah, see, it’s been 6,000 years according to President Benson, and that just so happens to line up exactly with the building ages in Nauvoo as well as the Masonic calendar.  But hey, for scientists it’s been several million years.  I guess they’re getting the last century or so year jitters.

0:05:00- Mullets are the hairstyle of heaven.  “My mother is having her very first baby this minute.”  That’s a great argument that infants are not actually people until birth.  Guess abortion isn’t murder after all.

0:05:20- Second false doctrine that screws up a lot of members still, “That you promised you’d marry someone before you were born.”  Yeah, no scriptural reference for this at all.  No reason to believe that sealings would be pre-ordained.  I mean, think of the sheer number of people who meet on accident and end up getting married.  Now I can hear the TBM rolling his eyes from here, “It’s not doctrine.”  Go around BYU for a while and ask the boys and girls there if they think they may have committed to someone before this life and are looking for that someone.  Maybe not official doctrine, but let’s call it “folk doctrine.”  And it’s still false.

0:05:30 – Guys ignoring women being emotional happened in heaven, too.

0:05:40- Jealousy is an eternal concept.

0:05:50- Passive aggressive behavior… also eternal.

0:05:58- “What good are promises in a world where everything will be forgotten?” What a great question, Julie.  Really the most intelligent thing asked so far.  Imagine that the Plan of Salvation was reversed and when you died, all your knowledge and promises were forgotten when you died.  What would be the point of the temple?  Would temple covenants be binding on individuals who have forgotten everything?  Would marriage be binding despite having no knowledge of them?

Clearly, this is a great argument against why any sort of pre-ordaining or any other promise prior to this life (or action, such as being less faithful for black people) would have any validity in this life.

0:06:00- “By some miracle we do meet.”  Indeed, the odds are small Julie.  You’re making sense.

0:06:08- “How long have we known each other?”  “Forever.”  Insidious doctrine.  Let’s put it in some other situations:

“How long have you known Ted Bundy?”  “Forever.”

“How long have you loved Mr. Stalin?’  “Forever.”

“How long have you wanted to marry someone, but instead you’ll be born to an African village and starve before age 5?”  “Forever.”

This is touched on later when the dancer ends up born with no legs, but basically it really illustrates what a gyp this earth life is, from the eternal perspective.

0:06:40 – Stamping pouting fits, are also heavenly and eternal.

0:07:00 – Song- Circle of our love.  Just add in the doctrine of polygamy and suddenly this song gets very odd.  Imagine him having that moment of “seeing that smile somewhere before” while married.  Yeah.  Imagine finding several women that you were supposed to be with forever on this Earth.  No WONDER men are so horny.

0:08:36 – “Brother Richards you’re on final approach.”  Again, abortion isn’t murder if the spirit doesn’t enter the body until the very last second.  You can almost have a spirit make-out session a few seconds before.

0:08:45- “Just pay attention and you’ll do well.”  Correlated lies must also be eternal.  She’s not mentioning anything about drugs, smoking, or say… genocide.  there is a throw away line for humor that the next slot is in Siberia, but the doctrine implications are tremendous.  A few minutes late for birth and you end up with a family that you DIDN’T sing and dance with in the pre-existence.  Also this character introduces the overworked Relief Society calling as an eternal principle.  This woman is not happy in heaven.  Is she a resurrected being?  or do spirit people help out in the next life, have callings that make them miserable, etc.?

0:10:24- Consider if instead of him being born, he was sent down at the moment of conception.  This set of lines becomes amazingly awkward as his dad is still humping his mom while they discuss it.

0:10:40- Eternal families were before this world.  This concept really skews things.  Miscarriages, abortions, early deaths, all become very complicated.  Great, God has a plan for you, and it involves you dying as a machine-gun toting 12 year old after being forced into a warlord’s gang that just gang-raped your sister.  If EVERYTHING is connected, then God is responsible for everything.  Including siblings of incest (that’d be a fun conversation in heaven), inbred children, and children knowing they were going to be born to mass-murderers and not being able to do anything about it.

0:11:29- Ultrasounds really fowled up heaven’s “surprises.”

0:11:40- Octomom is true.

0:12:08- Jimmy proves that massive egos are eternal.

0:12:15- “Sweet Spirit” mentioned.

0:12:28- “Nothing but a sweet spirit.”  Number one fear… being ugly.  Boy does this say a lot about mormonism or what?

0:12:31- “As long as I can dance.” Hah.  God’s got a joke on you!

0:12:35- Emily is worried mom and dad might run out of gas.  1.7 kids per family, abortion is a dirty word…  promises to families.  Yeah this is propaganda.  There is no doctrinal basis for children being pre-assigned to families.  But this is it, the thesis of the film.  We promised to have lots of kids and if you do ANYTHING to prevent that, you’re hurting real people that you made promises to. You just can’t remember.

Let’s imagine this produced by an anti-mormon church.  “I’m just worried, that before I’m born, mom and dad might join the mormons!”  You see how there is no counter argument to something not based in any sort of logic or pre-existing context?  That it’s just made to pull on emotions for a political point? Yeah. It’s dirty pool, man.

13:33- What does it take to make a family?  A song to guilt teenagers into compliance.  Why are you depressed?  Don’t you know you are hurting your spiritual brothers and sisters?  Can’t you just sing and dance with us?

That’ll finish this portion off.  To be continued to next time.

Part 2:

0:00:00 We pick up mid song, with a caring and kind Jimmy.  We’ll see how evil and rebellious he is as a teenager during wicked earth life after.  But right now, spirit teenager Jimmy is calming the fears of spirit child Emily about monsters in closets, something that only makes sense due to casting choice.

0:00:45  Jimmy might lose his way- foreshadowing for the plot.  “Even die for you Jimmy… oh Emily.” See how committed these spirits are to us, and us to them? Bad teenagers. Emily would die for you! Stop wanking off, they can see you, you know!

0:01:45 Spirit Elders.  Now I want you to consider for a minute why we have these two, and they are the comedy element to the whole thing.  They are buffoons, failures, absolutely the most incompetent characters in the entire thing.  But they dream of greatness.  Why no Spirit Alma, or Spirit Joseph Smith, or some future prophet. Because 1) we’re only dealing with contemporary issues and the logic breaks down if you apply it to any other time frame, and 2) missions are weird.  There is inherent humor in two men without women for a long time.

Now, just look at any person who spent 2 years and $10k or so proselyting and only gets one convert and is dumped by his girlfriend.  Not a lot of humor in real life.  So how to play this for laughs… ham it up to ridiculous levels.

I wonder if spirit Joseph Smith sang a similar song, filled with hubris and self-importance.

0:02:00 – Eyeglasses are an eternal principle.

0:02:16 – These two men have been best buds since before the foundation of the world.  They don’t sing “The circle of our love,” but they’ve also known each other “forever” and have clearly not been hanging around women “forever.”  Yeah, maybe sexual preference is also an eternal principle.

0:02:21- Submission/Dominance is an eternal principle.  Either that or heavenly bullies/shyness is eternal.

0:02:39- Gay man strut.

0:02:42- Hip thrusts of righteousness.

0:02:44- That sword of truth looks a lot more like grabbing another man’s…

0:02:52- Bro-hug a pre-Elder to put him in his place.

0:03:11- Was that MC Hammer’s Sprinkler dance?

0:03:12- The Elder selects Julie out of the people there.  Hmm… maybe “Dear John” romances are an eternal principle as well.  Cut to the family lovingly looking at her daughter being told to get to her knees for a missionary.

0:03:27- Fat Gay Elder is too far from the dominant, shuffles in to be closer to him.

0:03:54- Kesler and Green are sent to earth AT THE SAME TIME (This will be key later).

0:04:12- Apparently being born in Madagascar is a “lesser calling.” Nope. No racism… just making the audience feel special because they were born in the U.S. at all.

0:04:20- When I saw this as a kid, I asked if they were brothers because they were sent down at the same time.  Like, same birthday.  But no, they’re just really, really close together males that want to live together really badly.

0:04:29- Very close to a mix up of epic proportions.  Just think, if Green was sent to Kesler’s body and Kesler to Green’s body, well, their spirits wouldn’t match their bodies.  Green wouldn’t be fat.  Kesler wouldn’t have great hair.  They might… wait, what would happen?  The philosophical implications of the logistics of the pre-existence are staggering.

0:04:31- I’m a laughing little girl who will eat your soul!

0:04:40- Damn, nurses are inspired to switch babies. I’m sure the father’s paternity test did not cause divorces later.

0:05:00- “I’m gonna miss this beautiful place.”  Ah yes, because it’s totally different than Earth.  I mean there’s green grass.. no wait, um, rolling hills.  Hmmm… Well you get to walk on clouds, dammit!

0:05:08- “Earth life is just a few short years.”  Ah yes, the “eternal perspective” which allows one to ignore the pain in place of belief of a better world, rather than actually fix problems.  Can’t forget that.

0:05:14- “When you leave home, it’s always this way,” “Especially your first home.”  Wait, you’ve never left home before, but yet you know it’s “this way” to leave home.  Hmmm, I smell pandering to the audience–propaganda style.

0:05:30- This is a good point.  the idea of wiping every one of your kids brains was the BEST plan available?  No wonder some spirits fought it.

And here we go with promises again.  They’ve just covered that there is no way they’ll remember their promises.  But every character so far has made promises to other characters.  Guilt, guilt, guilt.  You don’t live up to a bunch of promises you don’t remember?  You’re a bad person!

0:05:45 – Every woman (being born) has been shown as emotional, scared, or unstable.  Every male is confident, headstrong and courageous so far.  Repeat after me: “no sexism in the church.”

0:05:51 – I wonder if they tell kids who are supposed to die just after being born, or if God just surprises them as a joke.

0:06:11 – Inappropriate thigh touching of siblings!

0:06:16 – Ah yes, groping of thighs as a sign that one came from a pre-existence.  Thank you thinly veiled reference to the Five Points of Fellowship.  How about a “secret handshake” while you’re at it?

0:06:21 – “What good is Earth life if all the memories are forgotten?”  Good question, Jimmy.  But this kind of skeptical thinking might land you in trouble in mormon imagination-land.

0:06:34 – “Hours and minutes I’ve yet to meet.”  This brings up a GREAT meta question.  If there is no time for God, then why is everyone hurrying, or needing to get on the teleport “soon”?  Clearly, either they have watches in heaven or we humans have no concept of life without time.  We can’t even imagine it long enough to put it in a movie.  Which means the constant “hurry up and wait” attitude that is constant in the performance really is a reflection of mormonism.

0:07:04 – Some General Authority asked if there was a way his ballerina daughter could get in the cast, I guess.

Thank you, Lex D., for including this song.  When will it end?

What is that sound rising up from the world?  The clang of the bell on the ledge.  

Where young ones play on their merry way, as they float right over the edge

Deep lyrics, man.  Deep.  I mean, why didn’t Led Zepplin write anything this deep?  I’m waiting for him to say, “They’re falling… to hell.”

0:10:08 – Woah, we dissolved past him back into him! Like an 80s school portrait.

0:10:15 – Fade to black.  For no reason.  I guess there was no good way to show Kesler reappearing on the teleport.

0:10:30 – Spirits get roller coaster rides every time a woman has Braxton Hicks.  Who knew?  Beyond that, I guess the lesson to learn is that children with longer labors must have extra loop-de-loops in their transporter ride or something.

0:10:46 – Realize how small they make this world.  We have only the characters, no “extras,” milling about in the background even.  I realize it’s a cheap budget, but with 6 billion people on Earth, this place would be, well… more busy than grand central station.  Every day in 1997, about 365 000 babies were born.  Think about that.  Maybe this is just a subset of a culture among many other cultures, so small they aren’t even DNA significant.

0:10:56 – Whiny brat behavior:  Eternal principle.

0:10:58 – “Everything is going to work out just fine.”  Just picture Vilate Kimball telling this to Helen Mar before going down to Earth.  Yeah.

0:11:14 – Her necklace reminds me of this, but maybe that’s just me.

0:11:28 – Again with the fade to black.  Where did heaven go?

0:11:30 – And that’s when the famous “twins born on an airplane” happened.

0:11:32 – Kesler?!  So wait, they had 80s hair in heaven 20 years before it came to Earth.  Gosh, I wonder if they had punk hair in heaven, too!

0:11:34 – Whining, jealous, emotional… yup, eternal.

0:11:39 – Mission rules be damned, they only apply to you Elder, not to me. I’m hugging you!

0:11:46 – Leg hug, because that’s totally kosher and normal.  Gate agent doesn’t even react, she’s used to it in the SLC airport.

0:11:55 – What? Where am I? Why am I crawling on my hands and knees to man?  Did you use your Elder mind powers on me again?

0:11:57 – Yes, you gave her your CTR ring 6 weeks ago, ya cheepskate.

0:12:05 – Pioneer zeal apparently comes with a free “eye roll.”

0:12:10 – Two years!  Yes, Julie, it is ridiculous to go that long without a boyfriend.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I’m sure church leaders will realize the error of their ways after watching this film.

0:12:26 – He made her sign a contract?!  Um, let’s see all those unwritten promises before, yeah, they’re worth less than that paper right there.

0:12:40 – Is he lisping?

0:13:04 – Wait, an oath as well?  Hmm, kinda says how much oaths are worth now, doesn’t it?

0:13:25 – Osama bin Laden really just wanted to prevent LDS missionaries from reenacting this scene, so he heightened the security in airports across the country.

0:14:29 – STOP THE MUSIC! Is that girl in purple on the left waiting for a black man to have an interracial marriage?!!!  Wow.  Good thing Bruce R. died before this was filmed.

0:14:55 – Is that an appropriate half-nelson she’s got you in, there, Elder?

Part 3:

0:00:01 – “Final Boarding Call” – Wow, they really took their time on that song and dance number.  I was on my plane WAY before final boarding call, looking for someone to talk to.  I guess “Labor of Love” hadn’t been produced yet so they didn’t know they should talk to people on planes.

0:00:06 – “This is it!”  I know this is meant to be comedy, but thinking about someone desperately wanting something for eons, millennia, for untold numbers of years, and then to fail so hard as Kesler does, it’s really quite tragic.  Imagine it was a woman wanting a baby for eternity and then she is unable to have the baby for two years of trying, and at the end, she has one, but only one and can never have another.  That baby grows up and steals her partner in an incestuous relationship.  Ha, ha.  So funny.

0:00:32 – Is she singing to his wang?  That is his crotch there right?  Also, that’s 3 hugs I’ve counted.  Kesler didn’t really listen in the MTC, did he?

0:00:43 – Dashing stare into the sunset as the camera fades.

0:00:47 – The oddest cut in the whole movie.  Why are they here on a movie set?  Some sort of family award?  It makes the missionary thing totally disconnected.  You think they might cut to Julie talking to a family member about how she just sent her missionary off and have the “five seconds to air” cut them off for continuity, but what do I know?

0:00:56 – Every mormon mom’s dream…  being handed an award for having so many children, all of whom survive.

0:01:02 – I love that the best thing they could think to do is have “Riverdale” hand out an award for a family.  Not “Utah.”  Not “The President.”  Not the actual christian ministries who hand out awards like this. Nope, Riverdale.  At least there are no bones about it; this is Utah we’re talking about.

0:01:32 – Okay, for those who don’t know, the prominent nose is known to be a key feature of Jews.  I’m not sure they meant to insult Jews, but many Jews, when connecting Hollywood with prominent facial features, typically do not look at it in a positive light. I have no idea what they were thinking when they wrote this sketch.  I assume they were trying to play off the Osmond’s fame at the time?  Hmm, born in Ogden, big singing/dancing family. Big poofy hair. Maybe the Jimmy character is prophesying Donnie’s departure from the faith?

0:02:03 – Riverdale has a lot of quaking?  I have no idea what drug induced moment would cause someone to write that line.

0:02:20 – Ah yes, the dancer who has no ability to use her legs.  Ha, ha. God’s a dick, ain’t he?  And they point it out. It’s like the God who creates polio and so forth really is the God they are discussing.  Bonus points for being bold enough to include a dancer who can’t dance.

0:02:41 – I know the kid in the elephant nose. We’re good friends and hang out from time to time. I attended his second marriage reception.

0:02:48 – I find the DNA implications here interesting. I mean, they are discussing the inheritance of nose genes. Would Emily’s nose be significantly different if sent to a new family?  Her life experiences, who she would meet and marry, would be altered dramatically.  The idea that “we have people we promise to marry” makes sense from the aspect of one family, but take those decisions across generations upon generations and… well think of it this way.  How much do you determine your great-grandkids’ potential on who they marry by what high school you attended?  You see, if you nailed that cheerleader or the Homecoming king, and got pregnant, how would their whole future alter compared to if you meet and marry the Hawaiian girl two years later at Oxford? Yeah.  Now compound that over generation after generation of choices and the idea that these people made promises becomes ludicrous.

0:02:37 – Bizarro cut number 2.  Here we have someone we were never introduced to before.  We don’t see him in the pre-existence.  No “I promise to be your friend forever, Jimmy” before they come to earth life. Seductive girl being held by a man in a car… clearly evil.

0:03:13 – “You do it with mirrors” Arguably the most awesome line in the whole movie.  And does Jimmy take her up on this, or play it up? Not at all, just a throwaway.

0:03:18 – “Wasn’t that show sponsored by Planned Parenthood?”  Again, the theme here is that abortion is evil.  Having big families is good!

0:03:20 – “Unbridled primal urges.” Yup, they actually said it. No birth control just reveals that Mormons have sex 6 or 7 times in their marriages.

0:03:30 – “Important decisions coming up in your life” – Here is where the movie is a bit bizarre.  He’s like the EQ president in the mirror universe where Spock has a beard.

Your reasoning as to why you have not completed your home teaching this month is illogical

He isn’t saying, “Hey we support you in your decisions,” or “We care about you and worry about the ideas being pushed into your head by your religion.”  No, he’s totally taking the mormon tact to talk. It’s like the screenwriter (director/producer) was so correlated, he also views even anti-mormons as correlated. “A nice set of wheels or 47 kids?” No discussion of “How many kids do you actually want?”

“Babes galore or diapers, what a bore” – Ouch, they really wrote that?  I wonder if they actually read any Planned Parenthood material, or talked to people who opted to have only 2 kids, before writing… probably not.  I think that given that birth rates among even general authorities have fallen since 1970 (Source: Environmental Economics course at BYU), and the revised views of birth control in the church, the sheer dated arguments against controlling the number of children is just painful.

“Just this one can’t hurt, but they just can’t stop” – Equating the mormon view of family production with drug propaganda is actually kinda brilliant.

I, for one, like the European pamphlet that I saw about the church. It stated it this way:

Birth control

[paraphrase of a 10 year old member of a translation] “Just as latter-day saints do not expect us to live in an all natural world, but view bulldozers and roads, automobiles and buildings as good, we are not expected to approach the powers of reproduction in a wholly natural way.  The LDS are encouraged to respect the powers, just like one would respect the power of a bulldozer, and to use it well within the proper boundaries.”

I can get behind that philosophy. It’s powerful. Use it, control it, but don’t think, “all natural” is best.  Too bad that isn’t the actual philosophy that was taught.

0:04:08 – “And there is no turning back.”  Good argument.  I wish this was said in general conference or whenever they said, “do not delay having children.”  Oh, but realize there is no turning back.  Yeah.  It matters.

0:04:17 – “What about the country?!”  Ah yes, the resources argument.

I think we need to review this to understand the basic fundamentals of the argument (vs. the straw man presented) and to understand how far we’ve come from when this movie was made to when this argument will simply be accepted.

0:04:35 – “Citizens of Planet Earth” “Ozone”- Leftist arguments.

0:05:00 – “Zero population is the answer my friend” – Now, first thing you should understand is that dropping the word “growth” totally changes the connotation here:  Zero Population Growth means having as many children as it takes to keep the world in balance.  That you have kids at the same rate as people die.  It does not mean having no kids.  It does mean thinking about having kids in conjunction with some thought and planning.

Looking at the world charts at population growth we get a good look at which countries are prosperous and which ones are struggling to feed their people pretty quickly. High population growth is highly correlated with struggling economics.

These are pretty educated teenagers dancing and singing here.

0:05:12 – “Without it, the rest of us are DOOOOOOoooomed!” In my economics courses we learned about Easter Island, where growth actually wiped out society. We talked about peak oil and replacement of resources.  The reason people feel they can mock this philosophy is due to a man named Malthus, who prophesied that the planet would go through shocks due to population growth.  He was wrong due to technology and hence, we can mock him, right?  The interesting thing is, Malthus was only wrong due to science.  The same science that is being applied to say, “Woah, hold those horses and use some birth control.”

0:05:29 – “Who can survive, who can survive, not one of us will be alive.” An odd lyric.  Definitely playing off the Malthus concept.

0:05:39 – Spandex and bare midriffs.  A friend once commented that you can always tell who the bad girls are in mormon literature because they will show a midriff, or be wearing shorts, have tight clothing.  I think it interesting that the LDS are so judgmental that what the dancers probably wore everyday to rehearsal is a clarion call as to who the villains are.

0:05:40 – “Every day our food supply is shrinking.”  Yeah this is a straw man.  It was never part of the arguments that it was a gradual tapering off, but rather a sudden collapse, not terribly unlike what Tea Party members currently warn about.

0:06:25 – “The Oil is depleting away.”  I love how we have seductive looks, hair tosses, and so forth while discussing politics. So let’s see, in 1980  the price of gas was $1.25, world wide production of oil had just gone through a major embargo.  Oil costs would drop for twenty years and then skyrocket.  The reason for the skyrocket was demand from China.  When supply cannot keep up with demand because there is not enough oil to produce, causing prices rise, is called “Peak Oil.”  The concept of peak oil was founded in 1971 and the U.S. hit peak in the 70s, hence the oil crisis.  At that point, the country swapped to be dependent on external forces for our oil, and arguably led to the Gulf War, the Iraq War, The Iran Contra Affair, the Iran-Iraq War, etc.  This movie is mocking as “worldly concepts” serious issues that really impact our world today.

0:06:48 -Worst pole dancing ever. It’s supposed to be vertical for a reason.

0:06:52- Evil shoulder struts.

0:06:56- Could they not find any hotter dancers to play villains?  I mean, we all know how hot the LDS crowd is.  These are mediocre… wait, did they cast them to be less attractive?

0:06:57 – Villains lose all sense of coordination.  Two or three dancers behind the others, almost miss a spin, etc.

0:07:10 – Lean back baby, oh yeah baby.  Waaay back baby.  You know that’s just so … “worldly.”

Summary of scene: Gangs from West Side Story are true.  They sing and dance about their issues.

0:07:27 – I love that Jimmy doesn’t even follow along.  He just looks lost through the entire scene.

0:07:27- Ah yes, the typical mormon 7-8 kid home, with couch and coffee table, plenty of room for everyone.  All in nice fashionable clothing. We never saw 8-12 kid homes where the kids dressed from the DI and the whole house was trashed growing up.

0:07:34 – “Hey Jimmy, welcome home. Wow you look bummed. The kids in the parking lot sing to you again?”

0:07:46 – “Do you love all of us kids the same?”  We love all the kids the same except you dear. Now go play with your Barbies until they invent the Nintendo.

0:07:56 – “Our teachers read us a story.” Public schooling is a COMMUNIST PLOT to give BABIES AWAY!

0:08:10 – Random violence against a shoulder.

0:08:12 – “He’s getting a bit ragged.”  Okay so your kid says, “I feel like you might give me away or love me less” through an example of a story at school, and then projects themselves to their stuffed animal… and the mom says “Yeah, let’s toss the anthropomorphic projection of yourself away.”  Really? She didn’t say, “I love you honey.”  No discussion of the previous “Would you get rid of me?”

0:08:28 – The parents permit a conversation about getting rid of a child without interjecting.  Yup, they want all those kids.  Clearly.

0:08:43 – “Stop, stop. I have this very important crossword to finish. Mother and I would give all of you away just to get some peace and quiet around here!”

0:08:47 – “Julie, we notice that you’re upset because you’re the oldest and most emotional, but we’ll ignore the emotional needs of the others.”

0:08:55 – “Here we go again.”  I want you to hear the cry out for attention from Benji.  He is constantly interrupting the flow of things for attention. I’m guessing these are actual lines from families, because they would NEVER have portrayed a family like this if they didn’t think this kind of bickering and begging for attention was normal. Anger transference to “women” immediately after the authority coming down on him… also fascinating.

0:09:27 – “I couldn’t give anyone away.” Sit down as a family and… now all my kids are begging for attention and playing up to me hoping that I wouldn’t suggest them even in a game.

0:10:20 – “What if I picked myself and left this family right now?” look from dad.

0:10:35 – “Keep Pam and send your mother away.”

0:10:45 – “Space case… Spock.”  Now, now, there, Jimmy. As a teenager, we might make you go out and earn an income and help support the family like Alvin Smith.

0:10:54 – “The answer is just not having any more.” Actually, kinda sensible.  When the budget has to be cut at work, you remove the empty seats to be filled before you fire actual employees.  Of course, this is all hypothetical, right?

0:10:58 – “Nothin.” Yeah, he doesn’t feel like his voice would be heard/respected in this house.  Not a house of open opinions, I guess.  Unless it’s the discussion or removing current children.

0:11:00 – Mom finally notices the moping teenage son in the corner.

0:11:14 – “Mom, I have a question.” Dad answers.  Yup, the woman in this home is respected.

0:11:38 – “Don’t we have enough kids already?” – “Have your friends been pressuring you to tell you parents about safe sex again, Jimmy?”

0:11:43 – “Jimmy what is your problem?” Yeah, the best way to deal with a teenager, authority with condescending tones.  Always works.

0:11:47 – “What is this, world consciousness week?”  Great fathering in action.  When your teen asks for a straight answer, reply with sarcasm.

0:11:55 – “I love all my kids.” Pity you couldn’t have said that when they started asking which one would be given away.

0:12:26 – Jimmy mentions his mother changing diapers and the mother breaks down crying.  I get they MEAN for it to be about Jimmy disobeying, but it could be her thinking about the stress of that many more kids and wondering, herself, how many more she’ll have to endure.

0:12:50 – “Have we done something really wrong?”  Yes, blame yourselves for your child is thinking about the planet, the economy, and the welfare of others over your own social-economic structure.

0:13:00 – Opine about how their kid was better as a boy, in song. Jimmy explains how he had child like faith before, but now is thinking?

0:14:18 – All teenagers rebel against their parents until the parents are clueless. This is normal.

0:14:40 – The mother always looks perpetually sad.

0:14:48 – “Why can’t they love me?”

What a fitting note to end on.  Parents, if your teenager is rebelling, perhaps you can learn more from Jimmy than you can from his parents. He feels disconnected from his family.  Possibly because they did not listen to him.  They reacted with fear, aggression, and sorrow to his honest questions. The parents didn’t even explain their rationale. No, it was all about trying to put him in his place.

If you are struggling with your teenager, talk less and listen more. This message brought to you by “Not the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.”

Part 4:

0:00:01 – Angsty teenager singing. But to be honest, if you know someone who is struggling with self identity and a crisis of faith, odds are they want you to listen and love them.

0:00:27 – Why does the mom look so sad and tired in every shot? I’m guessing that she was thinking, “What would it be like to have 7 kids and be pregnant with number 8?”

0:01:20 – (summary) Conditional Love vs. Unconditional Love in one song.

0:01:30 – “Yup, feel so small and tiny and little.”  “Hey sis, you’re pretty flat, too!”

0:01:45 – Only mormons have direction and purpose in life.

0:01:55 – I overheard you talking to Mom and Dad, and Dad saying he’d give me away. I would have come in and said something, but I was left out here on the porch again, and mom said the whole family was there, so I guess they forgot me.  Anyway, just know that I don’t forget you even when I’m left out on the back porch by our loving parents.

0:02:00 – Pam wants more kids in the family.  MORE KIDS!  Faithful people want more kids!

0:02:22 – I don’t believe it. Remember the best way to treat a person in doubt is to tell them they are wrong, and they will one day come to understand what you already know.  It helps.

0:03:00 – Can’t help but notice that God made her crippled so that they couldn’t easily sit next to each other doing their secret sign. Jimmy would remember the pre-existence and not rebel if only God wasn’t such a devious trickster.

0:03:23 – “How about freedom?” Freedom to think, to evaluate and make decisions for one’s self is the crisis in this film. It’s the bad thing. To be clear, the free agency fought for in heaven would be portrayed as the villain’s choice in this film.

0:04:00 – Foreshadowing Pam’s death.  The writer read about it in a class once, and thought he’d try it by slapping it in the audience’s face.

0:04:07 – Good point. Why hasn’t faith actually healed Pam? Ah yes, her death is in the plan.  It will make Jimmy suddenly choose, because it’s all about the white teen male.

0:04:48 – Jimmy’s problem isn’t really that he’s a thinker.  It’s that he doesn’t have a testimony yet. It’s all about wanting answers too fast, not at all that he’s rejecting bad answers handed to him.

0:05:19 – Line upon line, re-written:

Line upon line, precept on precept.  That is how correlation, white washes the nation, of mormons.

Line upon line, precept on precept, like a tyrant drunk on power building a tower to heaven.

if you don’t research you’ll never see, the skeletons in the closet hidden carefully.

You’ll never really learn, about the universe, stuck with faith, forever.

You know, science?

Line upon line, precept on precept, faith is like a flower, now hand over your power, for heaven.

Line upon line upon line.

0:07:08 – Millions and billions of stars. Wouldn’t it be tragic to throw it all away for some con-artist’s trick?

I want you to think about what it would be like to have brothers and sisters feeling up each other’s thighs WITHOUT KNOWING THE REASON.  Awkward.

0:08:35 – Going on a date two weeks after the missionary is gone… standard Mormon fare.

0:09:35 – “Never never never trust a girl.” Again, Benji has a valid concern. He feels threatened at his sister’s fickle nature. He knows he’ll be out there in a few years, being the guy who is dumped, and there’s no understanding shown. Poor Benji.

0:09:45 – Regret for breaking a vow of eternal love lasts for a single second.

0:10:40 – Friends, I’m torn here. Is it a solid example that Mormons do not believe that there is such a thing as a plutonic relationship? Or is it that she has no idea how to actually friend zone men?

0:11:37 – Flip chart of missionary baptizing Saddam Hussein.

0:11:45 – Where are these missionaries serving? I assume stateside with the lack of accents. So they’re asleep while she’s prepping for a date (7:00) and they wonder why they have no baptisms. Those lazy bums.

0:11:55 – Token black man in the background trying his best to be a statue.

0:12:00 – “Work harder.” Ah yes, it must be HIS fault. It’s always the answer on a mission.  Work harder.

0:12:36 – “He does everything I tell him without complaining.” Ah yes, the mormon ideal for callings as well, I believe.

0:13:12 – Subtle humor that every missionary knows what’s in the other missionary’s mail.

0:13:28 – Sulky sad missionaries. Honestly, Kesler’s been the only one who was excited to be on his mission so far.

0:14:49 – Probably one of the most emotionally damaging messages of the film, “You will only get baptisms after being dear johned.”  It encourages the culture of hurting boys who are alone and away from home.

 

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Exploring Mormon Institute 2013 – D&C Lesson 15: “Seek Ye Earnestly the Best Gifts”

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Purpose

To help class members identify gifts of the Spirit, seek to obtain them, and use them to serve others understand them in context, and see through issues with them.

Attention Activity

The teacher should begin by standing up on a desk and rambling for a long time in a language no one understands. I would recommend Quenya[2] or, if you must, the lowly Sandarin[3], but any gibberish will do.

Prepare a student to stand up and “interpret” the gibberish into something intelligible. Perhaps the Gettysburg Address.

Ask the students how they could identify a correct translation. Have the students discuss common techniques for cryptography such as “E” being the most common letter in the English language, or identifying the word “the” (the most common word). Look for spaces, pauses, and repeated consonants. A guide can be found here[4].

Gifts of the spirit

D&C 46:11 “and to every man is given a gift by the Spirit of God.”

Got that? Every man (and presumably woman due to context of “man” in the 1830s meaning human) has a gift.

And why do we all have gifts?

9 “they are given for the benefit of those who love me and keep all my commandments, and him that seeketh so to do.”

Oh, so it’s every man who keeps commandments. OR we all get them to help us keep commandments. Or something. But people who don’t want to keep the commandments don’t get gifts, or they do, but can’t use them. Or something. Nevermind.

“To some is given one, and to some is given another, that all may be profited thereby.”

So these gifts have a synergistic effect. Everyone doesn’t have the same gift so that we work together. That’s a nice thought.

The Gift List

1) To some it is given by the Holy Ghost to know that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and that he was crucified for the sins of the world.

First off, we get to know that Jesus Christ is the son of God. That’s a nice gift, but please realize the implication is that some people do not have this gift, and hence, I guess, will never know that Jesus Christ is the son of God. This is pretty much scriptural backing for atheists.

Oh I know, one might say, “Faith, they can still have faith,” but that’s another gift we’ll discuss later. Some have it, some don’t, and there is no reason to assume you have one or the other. Personally, I want to see the atheist with the gift of tongues, but I’m still waiting.

2) To others it is given to believe on their words, that they also might have eternal life if they continue faithful.

It is a gift to believe others’ words. So some get to know, and others get to believe. I guess that’s how it works in heaven, but it would be nice if one of the gifts was scientific rigor, to prove by deduction and induction what others claim. I guess that’s asking too much.

3) To some it is given by the Holy Ghost to know the differences of administration.

No one knows what this means. Seriously. Look up three faithful websites on the subject and you’ll get 4 different answers. Some of you out there have a gift that no one can identify or use. How nice.

4) It is given by the Holy Ghost to some to know the diversities of operations, whether they be of God.

Again, not a lot of detail what this means. I mean, I can tell the difference between the multiplication operation and the division operation… I’ve played Operation. Maybe I burned up my gift right there?

More notably, these two do not appear in Paul’s list in 1 Corinthians 12-13. I’m not sure whether God changed the gifts (some had to be returned to the store they were bought from) between dispensations or if Joseph was just trying to leave some open ended things he could claim later when in a tight spot.

5) I say unto you, to some is given, by the Spirit of God, the word of wisdom.

This was just to screw with people. You see, God knew that later he would reveal the “Word of Wisdom” as a health law, and that forever people would read this and be confused. It’s God’s way of making a little scriptural joke: “Your gift is to not drink wine… bwa ha ha ha.”

7) To another is given the word of knowledge, that all may be taught to be wise and to have knowledge.

Now here is more evidence of God’s humor, because the people with the word of knowledge also have the ability to teach “to be wise,” so they trump those with the “Word of Wisdom.” But also, here we have good evidence that there is a “Word of Knowledge” out there to be revealed. Maybe it was supposed to be the 90th section of the D&C, right after the “Word of Wisdom,” but it was never revealed.

Can’t help but think that Boyd K. might not be so against the wrong kind of knowledge if we’d ever received the “Word of Knowledge.” Ah, well. But one more little God pun. You see how it says you’ll know wisdom? Well He has another definition of “Wisdom”: (Alma 34:35)[5], “learn wisdom in thy youth; yea, learn in thy youth to keep the commandments of God.”

So the “Word of Wisdom” or the “Word of Knowledge” that teaches wisdom is really just a calling to be home teacher, or EQ instructor, or some other instructor that teaches to keep commandments. What, were you expecting to be Socrates?

8) To some it is given to have faith to be healed.

For the others they just have to use band-aids I guess.

9) To others it is given to have faith to heal.

In my head there is instantly an equation. If the healer has faith to heal, but the wounded has no gift to be healed, is the person healed? If a healer has faith to heal, and the gift to be healed, does it double the hit points recovered, or is it only a flat +6?

10) To some is given the working of miracles.

I have no idea if this indicates that the other gifts here don’t count as miracles, or if this is a catchall.

11) To others it is given to prophesy.

Sure.

12) To others the discerning of spirits.

Actually, I’d like my prophesying giftees to also be able to tell if the spirits are good/bad/boring/etc. because if they just prophesy without knowing if it is from the Devil… ah nevermind. It just seems to me that many of these gifts MUST go with other gifts for them to make sense.

I mean, this isn’t the end-all instruction guide for gifts, it’s really just the table of contents. I wish God had the foresight to know the “Dummies” books were being written, because these gifts could have totally used a “Gifts of the Spirit for Dummies” book so we could use them correctly. sigh

Okay the big ones, 12 and 13. Just a note, to Catholics there are only 7 gifts of the spirit, and they are key at confirmation of teenagers. Just an interesting difference.

12) It is given to some to speak with tongues.

and

13) To another is given the interpretation of tongues.

I want to be absolutely clear here, this changed dramatically. We no longer practice these gifts and I can see your hand in the back Jimmy, yes we have an MTC and yes people learn languages there, but that is NOT what Joseph was talking about. It was clear back then as to what “speaking in tongues” meant. The idea that missionaries speak in tongues is totally a modern concoction and thus has no relevance when taking these verses in context.

Speaking in Tongues – How it was done historically

“When Joseph asked Brigham Young to pray, Brigham spoke in tongues, using strange sounds and unfamiliar words. The others looked at Joseph in some perplexity, for this type of spiritual phenomenon was not common to them. It was Joseph’s first experience with the puzzling speech and he called it ‘pure Adamic’ and stated that it was ‘of God.’ Speaking in tongues spread through the Pennsylvania branches of the church first, then occurred in Mendon, New York. Brigham Young brought it to Kirtland. The practice became a part of the Saints’ worship – particularly among women – until well into the next century.”

  • King and Newell, Mormon Enigma: Emma Hale Smith, p. 46

“To describe the scene alluded to would be beyond my pow’r. Suffice it to say the spirit of the Lord was pour’d out and we receiv’d a blessing thro’ our belov’d mother Chase & sis Clarissa by the gift of tongues.”

  • Patty Bartlett Sessions journal, see Smart, Mormon Widwife

“Brother Leonard spoke in tongues in an Indian language, and prophesied of the destruction of this nation before the coming of the Savior. The power that rested upon him was so great as to produce such an intense sympathy with those in the room, that they were all wonderfully affected. Sister Eliza R. Snow walked the floor to keep her breath. All felt the distress and agony that awaited the nation, more particularly the priests and harlots being destroyed in their wickedness. Sister Eliza Snow spoke afterwards in the pure language of Adam, with great power, and the interpretation was given.”

  • Wells, “A Venerable Woman,” Women’s Exponent, v. 12, June 1, 1883, p. 2

“I [Eliza Snow] spoke & she [Patty Sessions] interpreted. I then blest the girls in a song, singing to each in rotation.”

  • Eliza Roxcy Snow journal, June 6, 1847, see In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith, by Todd Compton, p. 323

“That fall, after Miriam’s death, he, Heber Kimball, and several relatives traveled to Kirtland, Ohio, where he first met the twenty-six-year-old Prophet Joseph Smith. Invited to evening prayer in the Smith home, Brigham was moved by the Spirit and spoke in tongues, the first speaking in tongues witnessed by the Prophet.”

  • Brigham Young, by Leanord Arrington (Church historian)

Got that? Joseph Smith did not know about the gift of tongues until after Brigham Young stood up and performed. After a shocked moment, I’m sure, Joseph picked it up pretty quickly. Brigham loved to speak in tongues, and did so on all kinds of occasions including mid-argument (Brigham Young’s biography, by Turner, has some humorous moments with this).

“We received the gift of tongues and interpretation a few days after we were baptized. The brethren who brought the Gospel to us belonged to the first Branch of the Church that received the gift of tongues, and the Branch at Mendon was the next. Brothers Brigham and Joseph Young and myself went to Kirtland, with my horses and wagon, to visit the Prophet, a distance of three hundred miles. We saw brother Joseph Smith and had a glorious time; during which brother Brigham spoke in tongues before brother Joseph, it being the first time he had heard any one speak in tongues; he testified that the gift was from God, and spoke in tongues himself. Soon the gift of tongues became general in the Church in Kirtland. We had a precious season and returned with a blessing in our souls.”

  • Millennial Star, Heber C. Kimball

So we can learn two things by this: 1) God didn’t bother to tell Joseph about things but let him stumble upon things in other religions, which looks a bit like grafting a religion together from all the contemporary religions, and 2) There should be someone to interpret tongues and they are typically in some unknown language.

There is no “MTC-style” tongues until Joseph totally cons a crowd later on.

“I have now preached a little Latin, a little Hebrew, Greek, and German; and I have fulfilled all. I am not so big a fool as many have taken me to be. The Germans know that I read the German correctly.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6 pg. 11)

He’d been studying Hebrew, German, Latin, and a few other languages (From Nibley’s great grandfather and others), and when the immigrants gather he says a few words in each language, making everyone feel like he was “magic” when really they were the same languages he was learning.

I want to be clear here, if you hold yourself up as a prophet and you pretend to magically know a language, when really you’ve been studying for weeks and months just to say a line or two, that is deceptive and con-artistry.

Okay, more tongue wackiness:

[Brigham] taught [a branch of the church] that when they spoke in tongues the language might be from the Lord, but with that tongue they spoke the things which were in their hearts, whether they were good or evil; the gift of tongues was given for a blessing to the Saints, but not to govern them, nor to control the elders, or dictate the affairs of the church.”

“In informal gatherings at Winter Quarters, Eliza and other women, many of them plural wives of Joseph Smith, repeatedly received the charismatic gifts of tongues, prophecy, and healing. These spiritual outpourings Eliza described as ‘a glorious time,’ ‘a rejoicing time,’ ‘a refreshing time'” (http://livingtext.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/mormons-and-tongues-2/[5]).

Good news, ladies. You don’t need gifts of the spirit; you get them all naturally.

In her book, White Roses on the Floor of Heaven, Susanna Morrill discusses a poem called “Lines,” by L.L. Greene Richards:

The circumstances surrounding the composition of the poem are telling, however, because the messages were conveyed through the gift of tongues by Clara H. James, then interpreted by Rida Taylor, and finally put into polished verse by L.L. Greene Richards…In order to most authentically communicate the revelations delivered in the gift of tongues, often identified as the primordial language of the Garden of Eden, or the Nephite language, Greene rendered them into poetic verse, in this way capturing both the message and the mood…

Ian G. Barber has noted that, within the LDS community, women were seen to be “natural” seers and visionaries who could more easily than men tap into supernatural and divine messages and powers.

Women rather than men most often exercised the gift of tongues. While men sometimes attended and headed these meetings where women spoke in tongues, they rarely seem to have joined in the tongue-speaking themselves. As the community settled in Utah and as the practice of tongue-speaking became routinized, this gender separation became even more pronounced, as did a separation based on age and prestige within the church. This is not to necessarily say that those who spoke in tongues were the ones who wrote the poetry. Sometimes this was the case as, for instance, with Zina D.H. Young who was well known to regularly speak in tongues during Relief Society meetings, but who was also a sometime author, poet, and contributor to the Exponent. Rather, it is more accurate to say: the same forces that led to tongue-speaking also led to nature and flower poetry.

Um… yeah. I love the part that people closer to Joseph, such as secret polygamist wives, more often spoke in tongues.

And unto the bishop of the church, and unto such as God shall appoint and ordain to watch over the church and to be elders unto the church, are to have it given unto them to discern all those gifts lest there shall be any among you professing and yet be not of God.

Here is one of the most misquoted sections in the D&C and abused, in my opinion.

What it DOES say:

The Bishop of the church [Edward Partridge at the time], which everywhere else is interpreted to mean the presiding bishopric, can identify true gifts from false ones to prevent the devil from misleading people.

What it DOES NOT say:

The bishop of your ward has all the gifts of the spirit, or the gift of discernment.

Got that? If they translate “The Bishop” in all the other D&C verses to mean “presiding bishopric,” there is no reason to interpret this “bishop” any differently.

I hope that the bishop up in the COB is busying himself identifying true spiritual gifts rather than huge tracts of land in Florida, or the church might be misled.

How to fake these gifts.

Gift of Healing[6]

Gift of Tongues[7] (I love the madman story)

Gift of Discernment – This one has practically gone out of use, but I’m sure James Randi would have a lot to say on this.

Gift of Knowledge – Yay for the scientific method!

Gift of the Word of Wisdom – Yeah, about them barley drinks…

Gift of Prophesy – We’ll cover all the failed prophesies later. Right now let’s just say “Prophesy statistically better than a coin would and we’ll consider it.”

Gift of Faith – Well, let’s just settle for some people having this, and mostly it has to do with not understanding the value of a skeptical mind.

Conclusion

The gifts of the spirit support the argument that Joseph was not learning from God, but was quick on the uptake of what would move people and grafted those things into his religion. Correlation smooths out the issues and teaches people to focus on the non-measurable ones such as “Faith.” Faith healing is dangerous, tongues are wacky, and overall people should probably stick to textbooks and study over hoping for magic gifts.

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Curious_Mormon’s Tithing Timeline

Originally found here.

This is an article reprinted in its entirety except for minor spelling/punctuation/clarity edits as I don’t think I could improve it:

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Here’s an interesting view on the history of tithing and how it related to the wealth and financial success of the LDS church.

  • 1837 – Presiding bishop defined tithing as two percent of one’s net worth, after deducting debts. This was voluntary and not forced, to quote, “Believing that voluntary tithing is better than Forced taxes” (source).
  • 1838 – D&C 119 redefines tithing as all surplus property and then 1/10th of interest annually.
  • 1844 – Official proclaimation for all saints to immediately pay a one time tithe of 1/10th of their property and money to the church. Exemptions are not made for those who paid at conversion (source).
  • 1845 – The church emphasizes the need to pay 1/10th of all possessions when entering the “new and everlasting covenant” (source).
  • 1846 – Apostle John Page, exempt from the rule as he was an apostle, left the church over what he felt was an unjust and mandatory tax. He further stated that many paid at the cost of necessities for life (source).
  • 1851 – Brigham instigated a vote that would allow excommunication for members not paying tithing or following the word of wisdom (source). This penalty was inconsistent and not often applied.
  • 1873 – Orson Hide describes tithing as 1/10th all of one’s property at the start and 1/10th of one’s annual income thereafter. This appears to be the first known instance of tithing being called 10% of one’s income (see edit for sources).
  • 1873 – Multiple statements declaring tithing as 1/10th of one’s income that should “be gladly paid,” occasionally referred to as a “tax from the Lord” (Orson Pratt, Brigham Young, see edit  for sources).
  • 1874 – Tithing is an inferior law compared to the Law of Consecration (Orson Pratt, see edit for sources).
  • 1878 – Even a widow who receives her full support from the church must pay tithing on those funds (L.W. Hardy – May 15, 1878). Note: the apostles were exempt from the law of tithing.
  • 1879 – Lorenzo Snow agrees with Hardy, explaining the situation is a product of the lesser law (tithing). Had the people been following the celestial law (consecration) it would not be a hardship for the widow (Lorenzo Snow, see edit for sources).
  • 1892 – Joseph F. Smith implies tithing comes before necessities and implicitly suggests that 9 dollars will go further than 10 when tithing is paid (see edit for the actual quote and sources).
  • 1896 – Salaries stopped for everyone but the 12 due to financial troubles.
  • 1898 – The LDS church is now $2.3 million (1800s $) in debt (source).
  • 1899 – Lorenzo Snow stated that everyone must pay tithing, prompting a dramatic increase in tithe payers. This was about the same time he issued a total of $1 million in short term bonds (source). The manuals show this as a turning point for the emphasis on tithing and its connection with full membership. Also note the subtle retcon in the current manuals. This is known as Lorenzo Snow’s declaration on paying 10% of your income, yet income, interest, or 10% are not used in the original quote. Instead, he simply says that each man is “to do the will of the Lord and to pay his tithing in full.” 10% of “income” had not been used prior to this time.
  • 1899 – Joseph F. Smith says tithing is a personal choice. Pay more to be blessed more (Conference Report, April 1899, pp. 68-69).
  • 1900 – Lorenzo Snow commissioned a list of non-tithe payers in all stakes. “Snow told the apostles that non-payment of tithing ‘was worse than the non-observance of the Word of Wisdom'” (source).
  • 1907 – The church is now free from debt.
  • 1908 – Tithing can no longer be paid in livestock, property, labor, or produce (source).
  • 1910 – Tithing is now required for a temple recommend.
  • 1914 – The church releases its first official report on how tithing is being used (source).
  • 1940s – You start seeing the words “income,” “increase,” and “interest” used interchangeably in publications from leaders and conference talks (see John A. Widtsoe, Evidences and Reconciliations, pg.285-286).
  • In 1944, you see comments on paying the Lord first. This is specifically meant to curb the practice of deducting taxes and living expenses (farmers are still allowed to deduct their operating expenses) (LeGrand Richards, Conference Report, April 1944, p.45).
  • 1953 – Income made it back into General Conference talks (see Joseph L. Wirthlin, Conference Report, April 1953, p.97).
  • 1957 – The LDS church has a $7 million surplus from tithing funds. Despite this, the LDS church manages to go $8 million dollars into debt over the next year and a half (source).
  • 1959 – The LDS church stops publishing its financial reports (source).
  • 1962 – “The Church was deficit-spending $32 million annually. New York financiers had to advise against the First Presidency’s proposal ‘to finance such spending by selling Church securities for the next fifty years.’ The new year looked no better. By the end of February, there was already a $5 million shortfall, and 1963 threatened to equal or exceed the spending deficit of 1962” (source).
  • 1963 – In this version of the general handbook of instructions, tithing was clearly stated as gross income. There is no reference to interest or increase (also quoted in The Messenger, September 1963, No. 87).
  • Concurrently in 1963, Tanner revamped the financial structure of the church and “step by step the Church was introduced to corporate financing” (source).
  • Another book, The Principle and Practice of Paying Tithing, published in 1965 states that tithing is gross, and not net. Notice the trend away from increase entirely and the full acceptance of income.
  • 1969 – Another conference talk on gross income (Bishop Victor L. Brown, Conference Report, 4 April 1969, p. 34).
  • 1970 – Joseph Fielding Smith and the rest of the First Presidency sent out a letter formalizing that interest is defined as income, and no one can say anything different. This went to bishops, stake presidents, and mission presidents (source: 19 March 1970).
  • Post 1970 – Quotes can be found by searching on LDS.org for tithing, income, increase, or tithe.
  • 1996 – Estimates place the LDS church’s annual revenue at ~$5 billion with total assets between $25-$30 billion (Time Magazine).
  • 2012 – The LDS church completed a $5 billion renovation in downtown Salt Lake. The LDS owned mall purportedly came in at $1.5 billionthree times the original estimate. It’s unclear how much of the renovation came from the church itself. After completion, the bishopric who supervised the project was released and tithing slips were changed to state, “Though reasonable efforts will be made globally to use donations as designated, all donations become the Church’s property and will be used at the Church’s sole discretion to further the Church’s overall mission” (comparison, old version on the left).
  • Today – All fast offerings and tithing donations are sent directly to Salt Lake and distributed as the church sees fit (2010 General Handbook of Instructions). Income, interest, and increase are often used interchangeably.

Conclusion: Tithing changed through the years to pay for emergency financial needs; however, the corporatization of the LDS finances proved to be more valuable in the overall financial stability of the organization. The LDS church also shows a clear pattern of controlling information to hide their debts and, in modern times, their massive revenue. Financials are only released when the church isn’t doing too poorly or too well.


Note: this is not my original research. It’s a compilation of the great work of others. Also note that there have been subtle retcons, interest became income in direct quotes. Blatant example contradicting D&C 119:4.

Edit: Many thanks to rikker for filling in the gaps between 1873 and 1899.

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Many thanks to curious_mormon and others who helped construct such an interesting and useful timeline.

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Exploring Mormon Institute 2013 – D&C Lesson 14: The Law of Consecration – An Economist’s Evaluation

The next section in the Exploring Mormon Institute is about “The Law of Consecration.” This is a subject near and dear to my heart. While studying economics at BYU, I was reading “Approaching Zion”[1] by Hugh Nibley. I decided it would be a good idea, instead of studying economics the “way of babylon,” to try to rewrite each lesson on economics that I was taught for the Law of Consecration.

You want a fun experience? Try telling a libertarian/highly republican set of professors you want to study everything they say in a communal-based setting, when they can’t disagree because their prophet once said it was good. The facial expressions were priceless and painful.

I planned on writing a “how to” course for bishops on common failures of the Law of Consecration. What follows will include much of that research.

I will refer heavily to the sourced timeline here[2]. As such, there will not be many sources cited in this lesson.

Econ 101

People are motivated by incentives.

If there is some reason to go out and get something, people will do it. This is observable not only in the real world, but in online games. Whether or not something is “morally good,” if the incentives are lined up, people will do it. Individuals may turn it down, but society as a whole will produce someone who will do it.

People are rational. 

This is an economics term which means that people try to maximize their utility[3].

That is to say, if you like pizza, you will eat slices of pizza until you don’t want pizza any more. You have maximized your utility from pizza.

Further, there are costs to maximizing utility. If pizza were free, we’d eat say… 5 slices, but if it costs, we may stop at two slices.

Free markets develop when rational people have incentives.

That is to say, if you strand two people on a deserted island, and they can use their time to make food or make shelter, and one person is better at making shelter, it makes sense that the second person makes food and trades for shelter. A market will develop out of that.

People have different tastes and preferences.

I don’t necessarily like oranges, and you might like them lots. Humans, by nature, are NOT homogeneous in tastes and preferences.

Even if someone has an absolute advantage, it makes sense to trade.

Constructing a house, for example. Let’s say that a man is magnificent at hammering nails AND he is also better at running wiring. Another man is good at running wiring, but horrible at hammering. It makes sense for the man who has an absolute advantage (he’s better at both) to focus on hammering and let the other man run the wiring. Even though he could do both, both men will be better off if they share the load, and produce more, than if one man tries to do it all despite him being better than the other man.

Law of Consecration: What was it really?

[T]he Partridge home was three miles from the boat landing and nine miles from Kirtland, their house made a good stopping place for those traveling to the church headquarters, and Emily recorded that ‘we had more or less of them stopping there from that time on, while we remained in Ohio. Lucy Mack Smith, the Prophet’s mother, noted in the biography of her son that when she arrived in Ohio with the rest of the Smith family, Joseph took them to the Partridge home where they “found a fine supper prepared for the entire company”‘ (http://bishoppartridge.blogspot.com/2012/05/chapter-four-law-of-consecration-and.html[4]).

On February 4, 1831, Smith received a revelation calling Edward Partridge to be the first bishop of the church. Five days later, on February 9, 1831, Smith received another revelation detailing the Law of Consecration[5].

By May 27, Edward Partridge was already feeling such pressure that he wrote for help from the prophet. The response was D&C 48[6].

The essence of the revelation was (1) that the place of the New Jerusalem was yet to be revealed; (2) that the Saints in Ohio were to share their surplus property with new arrivals; and (3) that, if more land was needed, the newcomers were to purchase additional property.

Due to missionary efforts flooding in new members, and with many members unwilling to live in a state of “all things in common,” the Order did not really get going. John Whitmer recorded that:

The time has not yet come that the law can be fully established, for the disciples live scattered abroad and are not yet organized; our numbers are small and the disciples untaught, consequently they understand not the things of the kingdom.

Whitmer further noted that part of the problem was that “some of the disciples who were flattered into this Church… thought that all things were to be in common, therefore they thought to glut themselves upon the labors of others.”

In economics terms, what John Whitmer is identifying is that the incentives for the Law of Consecration are out of whack. The individuals who have the most to gain (the poor) are likely to sign up in droves whereas the costs for the wealthy to join is very high; they are more likely to stay away.

And when the droves of poor find out there is no free lunch, but rather they will be told how to be successful, they have every incentive to leave because, after all, once they are rich they have more to lose.

My advice to bishops was to realize that living the Law of Consecration was going to be an eternal struggle of the poor who milk the system, the poor who are only poor because of temporary setbacks, and the wealthy who don’t want to contribute. This is true in the modern welfare system of the church and bishops currently deal with it plenty. Of course, they also deal with the organization siphoning off money in order to build malls, elk ranches, and other things that benefit the wealthy heads of the church instead of using it to help the poor.

The United Order

 The Order’s full name invoked the city of Enoch [according to Brigham Young] described in Latter Day Saint scripture as having such a virtuous and pure-hearted people that God had taken it to heaven.

The United Order established egalitarian communities designed to achieve income equality, eliminate poverty, and increase group self-sufficiency. The movement had much in common with other communalist utopian societies formed in the United States and Europe during the Second Great Awakening which sought to govern aspects of people’s lives through precepts of faith and community organization. However, the Latter Day Saint United Order was more family and property oriented (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order[7]).

In the early days, everyone simply agreed to give property to share. However, when Leman Copley contributed 59 acres to the poor Colesville saints, recently moved from Palmyra, the story changed. Leman was excommunicated and demanded his property back. When the church refused he took it to the county courts, who awarded him not only the land, but all the improvements to it.

And hence began the long tradition of God changing his mind due to lawyers faster than changing due to foresight, inspiration, or revelation.

After that, handing deeds over became part of the Law of Consecration. Edward Partridge, many of the Colesville saints, and others were then instructed by revelation to move to Jackson County, Missouri. Once there, Joseph spent a few days and then bailed on them, leaving poor Edward to manage a fledgling community with almost no insight on how to run the program.

I want you to think of a company where the VPs are all dreamers. They sit and think about how ideal the universe could be. Then they leave the details to the managers below them. I have worked for such a company.

The next section of what happened in the story of the Law of Consecration mirrors what I have seen at various companies when dreamers come up with ideas like “microwaves that can produce cold instead of hot” and leave the details to the managers and staff to actually implement.

Edward immediately sees the problem that if people can leave the order and take their property, that the incentives are wrong. So he corrects it. He tells people they cannot take their lands once contributed if they leave the church. Joseph quickly writes a letter to Edwards telling him he is doing it wrong.

Meanwhile, Joseph sends missionaries throughout the land to teach of the importance of gathering to Zion. The poor, hearing that they’ll all have everything in common, pack up and move in droves, typically spending everything they had just to get to Zion. In the words of Edward’s counselor, John Corrill, “the church got crazy to go up to Zion.”

They then become Edward’s problem. He realizes that there isn’t enough land for everyone coming in, despite the government opening up two development programs in the area, and that he has to deal. Many of the saints begin to squat on the land, angering the neighbors who had to pay. It becomes such a problem that Edward starts pushing for the saints to collect money to buy the land the squatters are on so they can keep the improvements.

As more people moved in, the size of the lots for “inheritance” got smaller and smaller out of necessity. If this is the model of heaven, I hope you, of the last dispensation of the fullness of times are ready for a one room apartment next to the ice-cooler for eternity because first mover advantage[8] is certainly part of the system.

When the printing house is complete, the first thing Edward prints is advice NOT to come up to Zion, but to take time to get money and purchase land when they get there.

You can see how the incentives in the day-to-day workings did not jive with the kindly visions of Joseph and Sidney. The devil was in the details, and the saints, being economically rational and motivated by incentives, did exactly what economics would predict.

The Law of Consecration also told you what your profession was.

Again, I want you to think of a company you have worked for or know intimately. Imagine trying to decide what each person was best suited to work as. That copy-girl, should she really be in marketing? How about that analyst? Maybe he’d be a great coder if you assigned him.

You see, the Law of Consecration not only had people give away their surplus, but also directed them as to their professions. As such, Mr. Partridge noted that everyone who was coming to Zion was a farmer, and sent a letter to Joseph requesting blacksmiths and other artisans.

Rubber hits the road vs. Lofty goals in Kirtland

The letters between Sidney and Edward bantered back and forth for a good while (with some dispute about who was really in charge). Edward did his best to live a law that, for some odd reason, the details of had never been written down… neither in the New Testament[9] nor in the Book of Mormon[10] and the details given in the D&C were changing/shifting and against human nature.

In fact, for a principle we no longer live, it scores up as one of the topics with the most revelation related to it. Sections 48, 51, 54, 58, 64, 68, 72, 85, and 119 were all revealed directly to inquiries by Edward Partridge about management of the Law of Consecration or related to implementation of the law. That’s nearly 10 sections of the D&C we pretty much ignore today (except the last bit in 119 about tithing).

An interesting note, the procedure for disciplinary council

This procedure is founded in the D&C 42 revelation, which specifically states that bishops should be paid. Interesting that bishops are no longer paid and the consecration rules are thrown out, but the disciplinary council for adultery still remains.

Temple Recommends

To deal with the sheer number of people trying to go to Zion, a bishop’s recommend became required. You had to have money to purchase an inheritance, you had to be worthy, and you had to not be a lazy/thievin’/no good louse. This made Zion an exclusive club and would weed out people who converted for a free lunch. It also produced a control mechanism wherein the bishop could dictate what was going to happen.

This resulted in a conformity in preferences and tastes. Bishops could send people who were more willing to eat wheat if Zion had more wheat. Bishops could send only people who were abolitionists. This resulted very quickly in the mormons voting in a block, and with the members being mostly poor squatters, it angered the neighbors quite a bit.

Now, we often hear that the apostates caused the trouble and there is some truth to that, but what we don’t hear is HOW apostates stirred up the natives to mob levels. The answer is simple. The apostates told the truth about what the church was trying to do.

Picture the following scenario. Another religion that you think is kinda kooky moves in to your neighborhood. At first 100 people move in. Let’s say Scientology, for example. They buy up houses, and start a printing company.

Then 500 people show up, and they are staying on neighbors lawns. They are putting 30 families in a house and causing sewer issues. They ignore the HOA’s warnings.

Then one of them leaves the organization. He explains that no one owns the property, but that the entire Scientology religion has decided that your backyard is where they should all live. It’s their Mecca, and they are preparing to send about 10,000 people to live in your neighborhood block; they are all going to vote to overturn the law of the land in their favor.

And when you approach the members to confirm, if in fact, this nutcase who left is telling the truth, they make no bones about that their spiritual leader has said as much.

Is there any wonder the neighbors were upset?

In 1833, the communal property (the hay bale for use by all) was lit on fire. Members were confused that Jesus Christ himself did not protect it, causing several to leave the church. On July 20th, the mob gives the Elders, that is to say the leaders, the ultimatum that they have to move in three days. The Elders refuse, seeing that selling the land or leaving was the same as showing no faith.

So the mob tars and feathers Partridge (the local leader), whips others, and destroys the printing press.

They then threaten members generally, but they started with the leaders figuring that if they could get them to move, they could foil the plans of having the whole religion on their back porch.

In 1834, a year later, the mobs would feel bad enough about what happened they would offer to buy the lands taken from the saints. Anyone who accepted the offer was excommunicated, as it was seen as an illustration of lack of faith that the Lord could provide.

Further attempts

The experiment of the Law of Consecration would be put off until Brigham would resurrect it in 1855, in preparation of seceding from the union in 1857, but he would not end up doing much either. In the 1870s, several more experiments would be started, but most ended by 1877 (Brigham’s death) and not a single one that was faithful to the LDS church existed by 1900.

Conclusion

This was not an ancillary portion of Mormonism. Sidney Rigdon preached the Law of Consecration before the book of Mormon was published, even making his own initial attempt in Kirtland. Joseph knew poverty for the first portion of his life, and spent much of his time trying to make “all things common” for saints. Clearly, the Kirtland Safety Society was another foray into how the saints could succeed financially via common ownership. Indeed, much of church history and motivations, and why people apostatized or followed Joseph, was in regard to the Law of Consecration and its fallout.

It’s a pity that the LDS do not study its failures in depth because it very clearly illustrates a program that sounds good on the outside, but absolutely fails in execution, running contrary to human nature. And simply blaming the humans, as Nibley does in “Approaching Zion,” is not fair. If we evaluate the LDS faith at its success for changing human nature, I think we’ll find that, in fact, that’s another exercise in failure of execution despite lofty goals at the origin.

BONUS COMMENT

“Realize that everything we have belongs to the Lord.”

This is always a section in the lessons on the Law of Consecration or tithing. I want to debunk this once and for all.

Imagine that you had a train set and that you gave it to your son. The son then played with it, not the way you thought he would (by running it on tracks), but instead by stacking up the cars and pretending it was a rocket ship.

How many of you would scold your son and force him to play with the trains the way you wanted because “it was your train set”?

When God “created the Earth for us,” He gave it to… well, us. At that point, the ownership ceased to be God’s and became “ours,” as in, the animals, plants, and humans placed on this planet (Darwin fans, I want you to know that, yes, humans are part of the animal kingdom, and that fungi and bacteria could be in that list).

At that point, the claim that “everything we have comes from God” ceases to be valid for “why you should give everything to an organization,” let alone that such an organization would need to firmly establish that by giving to it, one was actually giving to God.

Like, by having God sign the checks.

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Exploring Mormon Institute 2013 – D&C Lesson 13: Investigating apologetic responses to things discussed so far


 

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Exploring Mormon Institute 2013 – D&C Lessons 11 and 12: “The Field is White Already to Harvest”

Compare[1]

Purpose

To explain the the 1800s mindset that would lead people to join the Mormons.

Attention Activity

Take your smart phone and put it away from you just out of reach. Now scoot away from your computer and think of wanting to know something interesting, like how Guineas convert into British pounds, or what the recipe is for German rum fruit (Rumtopf[2]). What sources might you use?

Well, you might use an encyclopedia (These existed in 1729 similar to the form we think of, so that would be a possibility), or talk to an expert. You might try to recreate it from scratch simply by knowing that things were out there.

This compounds with difficulty when one starts talking about metaphysical knowledge. The processes for inductive reasoning were still being bantered back and forth between Hobbs, Hume, Decarte and the like[3], and really only those who were highly educated had access to such thought.

Instead, folk lore, folk magic, and a scattering of local libraries were the sources of knowledge.

Now, grab that smart phone back and stop hyperventilating. Read back over the last few paragraphs and actually click on the links. We NEED information today, and we have access to it. But in Joseph Smith’s time, information was processed, distributed and pondered differently.

Missionaries were common.

The idea of a street preacher can be very odd today, but it was common in the 1800s. Methodists like William Taylor (author of “Seven Years’ Street Preaching in San Francisco, California”), independent preachers like Charles Haddon Spurgeon, as well as other organizations that claimed members like George Whitefield and John Wesley all focused on growth via street preaching.

Further, Joseph grew up in the Burned-over District[4], an area that had preaching back and forth through many sects since 1824. Joseph clearly had good reason to believe that sending missionaries out would, in fact, bring in many converts.

Further, the way people transferred knowledge in those days was either by printed word (Which the church used a lot, almost always owning a printing press and putting out newspapers, pamphlets or columns written in the local paper by distinguished members), or by people bringing knowledge to your door.

Door-to-door sales was a common technique, and traveling snake oil salesmen were infamous in this period.

In short, the stage really was set for a missionary program to be effective.

But why would people believe the claims?

First of all, the message was not standardized the way we have it today. Joseph Smith’s First Vision would not be printed until 1842, 12 years after the church was formed and 22 years after the supposed event.

The visit of the angel Moroni and discussion of the gold plates was most of what early missionaries had to work with, and the people in the immediate vicinity were prepped for both visions and explanations about the local Indian mounds.

Burial Mounds

In 1780, Thomas Jefferson famously excavated an Indian burial mound and published the results[5]. Oliver Cowdery’s teacher, a short distance from where Joseph Smith lived, published “A view of the Hebrews”[6], discussing the burial mounds and tying Indians to the lost tribes. Solomon Spaulding also wrote about ties between Indian burials and people from the old world[7]. In 1905, “Forty years’ researches in British and Saxon burial mounds of East Yorkshire” was published[8].

The idea that there was treasure buried in these mounds was a common topic, hence the world was excited to hear about these mysterious burial places.

Visions of Angels

Alexander Campbell had, during this same time frame, started printing various papers and two key circulations. He challenged the orthodoxy of the Catholic church and, like many others, spoke of very different reforms.

This rebellious attitude of a respected voice of theology, along with others, prepared people for the idea of visits from angels and new religions challenging authority.

But his assistant, Sidney Rigdon really pushed the envelope. He believed that a reformation was not sufficient, but that new scripture would need to come forward to restore the old apostolic church, and that it would bring with it visions, angels, and all the gifts of the spirit.

Sidney had been dragged by a horse as a boy. Since then, he experienced seizures that put him into a trance, after which he believed he communed with God.

Sidney’s establishment in Kirtland, Ohio and the many converts to his baptist sect are why Joseph moved the church to Kirtland when things became heated in Palmyra (Sidney Rigdon Timeline[9]).

Although it can be difficult to understand why the church had such success, one can see that the new concepts being preached abroad, as well as the communication methods of the day, helped to foster an environment of growth.

Joseph was a common man.

In England, the Victorian era more or less dictated that the first son of landed gentry inherited the land and the other sons could either go into the church or be commissioned officers in the military.

Those who were not noble could neither become officers nor preachers.

Part of what fueled the reformation was the idea that ANYONE could have access to God, and Joseph Smith, Jr., a poor farm boy from upstate New York, idealized this image. He was a nobody before “God chose him,” and he began to have a blossoming following of people who swore the stories about him were true.

This idea that “anyone can have access to God” probably helped fuel the conversion flames.

Testimony meeting was a new idea.

In 1682, William Penn found a place for his religious ideals. The Quakers relied heavily on meetings where they would share visions, tell about what they knew to be true, even to the point that they would “quake,” hence the name “Quakers.” This place was “Pennsylvania.” Joseph Smith lived in Harmony, Pennsylvania, had key Quaker converts, and adopted the testimony meeting style.

In a world with very little ability to fact-check, a meeting filled with individuals who claim to have had visions, see the plates, or have confirmation would have been powerfully convincing.

Indeed, most of the anti-mormon rhetoric of the 1830s is not based on facts, but on testimony style disclosures. E. Howe, for as much as critics of his work “Mormonism Unvailed”[10] complain about his historical techniques, the idea that he would actually go around gathering data is something that should be commended. He was at least trying to use facts in the discussion of claims made.

Charisma matters.

What Sidney never had, Joseph had in abundance. That is charisma. He would speak, and people would listen. He would need things, and people would provide.

Indeed, there are numerous accounts of people being opposed to Joseph Smith, Jr. who, after meeting him, found him to be friendly and engaging.

This is a technique that still works today. Con-artists, MLM schemes, and Ponzi operators like Bernie Madoff are able to still convince people to join up to bad deals simply on their confidence, poise, and ability to speak.

Missionaries still try to use the 1800s model.

Although the church reformed the missionary message in 1950, and again in the 1980s with correlation, and again in 2000 with “Preach my Gospel,” the missionary program, at heart, still relies on quaker-testimony, a lack of good primary sources and research, an interest in things people don’t have answers for, the idea that they can know for themselves what wise and learned men never figured out, and charisma.

Missionaries with more charisma outperform those without it, regardless of spiritual worthiness. People with deep, difficult questions commonly complain about the missionaries’ inability to answer them.

Conclusion

The missionary program of the church was an artifact of 1800s culture and, although revised, it shows through to today’s missionary program. The church cannot rely on more modern means of information communication because of all the skeletons in its closet.

As such, missionaries going out should expect fewer and fewer converts as good informational sources begin to spread to additional countries and lands.

It should be no surprise that English speaking/reading countries with access to information have lower conversion rates, on average, than other countries.

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